Totally agree EricaF, well stated. I do have to say though that the AZ manager taking on more liability than the price of the anti-freeze for what seems like a poor customer seems surprising. But like you said the manager should've directed this customer to corporate.
What do you think of this Saturn dealer/dexcool
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Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Originally Posted By: artificialist
My Saturn is full of Dexclone right now and I'm having no problems at all.
I think what happened is that the cooling system fill broke some deposits loose, deposits that were there before coolant was added.
Actually this person's Saturn was all ready gummed up presumely on Dexcool and being low and she knew it before she added the Prestone AM. It was just a ruse by the Saturn dealer to blame the coolant that was just added to get someone else to pay for the flush, and the customer went along with it to get out of paying for the flush too.
I was just wondering what year is your Saturn, which dexclone are you using, and did you flush the Dexcool out before adding the dexclone or what?
2003 Saturn ION.
Dexcool drained and filled back in 2006 with AAP Dexclone which contains 2-EH. No system flush.
The AAP Dexclone is not orange. It pours out yellow, and then becomes the same color as the old coolant.
Soon I will be draining and filling the system again, and use real Prestone Dex-Cool, because the coolant looks more yellow than orange.
Originally Posted By: artificialist
My Saturn is full of Dexclone right now and I'm having no problems at all.
I think what happened is that the cooling system fill broke some deposits loose, deposits that were there before coolant was added.
Actually this person's Saturn was all ready gummed up presumely on Dexcool and being low and she knew it before she added the Prestone AM. It was just a ruse by the Saturn dealer to blame the coolant that was just added to get someone else to pay for the flush, and the customer went along with it to get out of paying for the flush too.
I was just wondering what year is your Saturn, which dexclone are you using, and did you flush the Dexcool out before adding the dexclone or what?
2003 Saturn ION.
Dexcool drained and filled back in 2006 with AAP Dexclone which contains 2-EH. No system flush.
The AAP Dexclone is not orange. It pours out yellow, and then becomes the same color as the old coolant.
Soon I will be draining and filling the system again, and use real Prestone Dex-Cool, because the coolant looks more yellow than orange.
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Do the Ion's intakes have coolant running through them?
Is the motor all Aluminum?
Is the motor all Aluminum?
Originally Posted By: ls1mike
Do the Ion's intakes have coolant running through them?
Is the motor all Aluminum?
The ion is an all aluminum motor. Its the ecotec motor, same as the chevy cobalt/hhr/etc..
Do the Ion's intakes have coolant running through them?
Is the motor all Aluminum?
The ion is an all aluminum motor. Its the ecotec motor, same as the chevy cobalt/hhr/etc..
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Originally Posted By: artificialist
My Saturn is full of Dexclone right now and I'm having no problems at all.
I think what happened is that the cooling system fill broke some deposits loose, deposits that were there before coolant was added.
Actually this person's Saturn was all ready gummed up presumely on Dexcool and being low and she knew it before she added the Prestone AM. It was just a ruse by the Saturn dealer to blame the coolant that was just added to get someone else to pay for the flush, and the customer went along with it to get out of paying for the flush too.
I was just wondering what year is your Saturn, which dexclone are you using, and did you flush the Dexcool out before adding the dexclone or what?
2003 Saturn ION.
Dexcool drained and filled back in 2006 with AAP Dexclone which contains 2-EH. No system flush.
The AAP Dexclone is not orange. It pours out yellow, and then becomes the same color as the old coolant.
Soon I will be draining and filling the system again, and use real Prestone Dex-Cool, because the coolant looks more yellow than orange.
No need to waste your money. Leave the coolant in there for a while. Just because it isn't the same color as the OEM means nothing.
I've been using Supertech (same as prestone all makes) coolant in a Saturn Ion for years with no troubles.
All makes all models means no need for a special coolant.
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Originally Posted By: artificialist
My Saturn is full of Dexclone right now and I'm having no problems at all.
I think what happened is that the cooling system fill broke some deposits loose, deposits that were there before coolant was added.
Actually this person's Saturn was all ready gummed up presumely on Dexcool and being low and she knew it before she added the Prestone AM. It was just a ruse by the Saturn dealer to blame the coolant that was just added to get someone else to pay for the flush, and the customer went along with it to get out of paying for the flush too.
I was just wondering what year is your Saturn, which dexclone are you using, and did you flush the Dexcool out before adding the dexclone or what?
2003 Saturn ION.
Dexcool drained and filled back in 2006 with AAP Dexclone which contains 2-EH. No system flush.
The AAP Dexclone is not orange. It pours out yellow, and then becomes the same color as the old coolant.
Soon I will be draining and filling the system again, and use real Prestone Dex-Cool, because the coolant looks more yellow than orange.
No need to waste your money. Leave the coolant in there for a while. Just because it isn't the same color as the OEM means nothing.
I've been using Supertech (same as prestone all makes) coolant in a Saturn Ion for years with no troubles.
All makes all models means no need for a special coolant.
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Originally Posted By: artificialist
My Saturn is full of Dexclone right now and I'm having no problems at all.
I think what happened is that the cooling system fill broke some deposits loose, deposits that were there before coolant was added.
Actually this person's Saturn was all ready gummed up presumely on Dexcool and being low and she knew it before she added the Prestone AM. It was just a ruse by the Saturn dealer to blame the coolant that was just added to get someone else to pay for the flush, and the customer went along with it to get out of paying for the flush too.
I was just wondering what year is your Saturn, which dexclone are you using, and did you flush the Dexcool out before adding the dexclone or what?
2003 Saturn ION.
Dexcool drained and filled back in 2006 with AAP Dexclone which contains 2-EH. No system flush.
The AAP Dexclone is not orange. It pours out yellow, and then becomes the same color as the old coolant.
Soon I will be draining and filling the system again, and use real Prestone Dex-Cool, because the coolant looks more yellow than orange.
Just as I expected, no problem with AM/AM even without a flush. Also I was just looking at anti-freezes and the Prestone AM/AM listed the exact same ingredients as the Prestone Dexcool, sodium 2EH and another Sodium inhibitor (I forget the name). I think this is about the same situation with Peak's AM/AM being a dexclone. It just irks me when a dealer spreads false information like that.
Also it really makes no difference if the coolant circulates through only the headgasket and not the manifold gasket in regard to Dexcool gumming up (whether dexcool deterioates the gasket is a different argument) because a leak there doesn't really cause air to get in and gumming unless the coolant level drops enough.
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Originally Posted By: artificialist
My Saturn is full of Dexclone right now and I'm having no problems at all.
I think what happened is that the cooling system fill broke some deposits loose, deposits that were there before coolant was added.
Actually this person's Saturn was all ready gummed up presumely on Dexcool and being low and she knew it before she added the Prestone AM. It was just a ruse by the Saturn dealer to blame the coolant that was just added to get someone else to pay for the flush, and the customer went along with it to get out of paying for the flush too.
I was just wondering what year is your Saturn, which dexclone are you using, and did you flush the Dexcool out before adding the dexclone or what?
2003 Saturn ION.
Dexcool drained and filled back in 2006 with AAP Dexclone which contains 2-EH. No system flush.
The AAP Dexclone is not orange. It pours out yellow, and then becomes the same color as the old coolant.
Soon I will be draining and filling the system again, and use real Prestone Dex-Cool, because the coolant looks more yellow than orange.
Just as I expected, no problem with AM/AM even without a flush. Also I was just looking at anti-freezes and the Prestone AM/AM listed the exact same ingredients as the Prestone Dexcool, sodium 2EH and another Sodium inhibitor (I forget the name). I think this is about the same situation with Peak's AM/AM being a dexclone. It just irks me when a dealer spreads false information like that.
Also it really makes no difference if the coolant circulates through only the headgasket and not the manifold gasket in regard to Dexcool gumming up (whether dexcool deterioates the gasket is a different argument) because a leak there doesn't really cause air to get in and gumming unless the coolant level drops enough.
Originally Posted By: JustinH
Originally Posted By: ls1mike
Do the Ion's intakes have coolant running through them?
Is the motor all Aluminum?
The ion is an all aluminum motor. Its the ecotec motor, same as the chevy cobalt/hhr/etc..
Except it has liquid cooled iron cylinder liners.
The intake manifold has no coolant circulating through it, and it is an all plastic manifold.
Originally Posted By: ls1mike
Do the Ion's intakes have coolant running through them?
Is the motor all Aluminum?
The ion is an all aluminum motor. Its the ecotec motor, same as the chevy cobalt/hhr/etc..
Except it has liquid cooled iron cylinder liners.
The intake manifold has no coolant circulating through it, and it is an all plastic manifold.
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Originally Posted By: artificialist
My Saturn is full of Dexclone right now and I'm having no problems at all.
I think what happened is that the cooling system fill broke some deposits loose, deposits that were there before coolant was added.
Actually this person's Saturn was all ready gummed up presumely on Dexcool and being low and she knew it before she added the Prestone AM. It was just a ruse by the Saturn dealer to blame the coolant that was just added to get someone else to pay for the flush, and the customer went along with it to get out of paying for the flush too.
I was just wondering what year is your Saturn, which dexclone are you using, and did you flush the Dexcool out before adding the dexclone or what?
2003 Saturn ION.
Dexcool drained and filled back in 2006 with AAP Dexclone which contains 2-EH. No system flush.
The AAP Dexclone is not orange. It pours out yellow, and then becomes the same color as the old coolant.
Soon I will be draining and filling the system again, and use real Prestone Dex-Cool, because the coolant looks more yellow than orange.
Just as I expected, no problem with AM/AM even without a flush. Also I was just looking at anti-freezes and the Prestone AM/AM listed the exact same ingredients as the Prestone Dexcool, sodium 2EH and another Sodium inhibitor (I forget the name). I think this is about the same situation with Peak's AM/AM being a dexclone. It just irks me when a dealer spreads false information like that.
Also it really makes no difference if the coolant circulates through only the headgasket and not the manifold gasket in regard to Dexcool gumming up (whether dexcool deterioates the gasket is a different argument) because a leak there doesn't really cause air to get in and gumming unless the coolant level drops enough.
Look at the bright side-he won't be a Saturn dealer for long!!
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Originally Posted By: artificialist
My Saturn is full of Dexclone right now and I'm having no problems at all.
I think what happened is that the cooling system fill broke some deposits loose, deposits that were there before coolant was added.
Actually this person's Saturn was all ready gummed up presumely on Dexcool and being low and she knew it before she added the Prestone AM. It was just a ruse by the Saturn dealer to blame the coolant that was just added to get someone else to pay for the flush, and the customer went along with it to get out of paying for the flush too.
I was just wondering what year is your Saturn, which dexclone are you using, and did you flush the Dexcool out before adding the dexclone or what?
2003 Saturn ION.
Dexcool drained and filled back in 2006 with AAP Dexclone which contains 2-EH. No system flush.
The AAP Dexclone is not orange. It pours out yellow, and then becomes the same color as the old coolant.
Soon I will be draining and filling the system again, and use real Prestone Dex-Cool, because the coolant looks more yellow than orange.
Just as I expected, no problem with AM/AM even without a flush. Also I was just looking at anti-freezes and the Prestone AM/AM listed the exact same ingredients as the Prestone Dexcool, sodium 2EH and another Sodium inhibitor (I forget the name). I think this is about the same situation with Peak's AM/AM being a dexclone. It just irks me when a dealer spreads false information like that.
Also it really makes no difference if the coolant circulates through only the headgasket and not the manifold gasket in regard to Dexcool gumming up (whether dexcool deterioates the gasket is a different argument) because a leak there doesn't really cause air to get in and gumming unless the coolant level drops enough.
Look at the bright side-he won't be a Saturn dealer for long!!
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