Where do people come up with magical 28+ mpg out of a V8 2 ton land yacht is beyond me. Sure on the flat plains of the midwest with granny like throttle input and only 55-60mph maybe you could eek out the mid 20's. No way in high [censored] will get that in the mountains of the Northeast. Anyone who believes such is delusional and needs to check their meds. New flash, no V8 crown vic will run 500,000 miles without significant work either to the engine or transmission/rear diff. at least one in it's life. People's love affair with them is boarding on insane at this point. Granted I love my TDI but the perfect car it is not. Personally for me, I'd be hard pressed between a 4runner or a Subaru Forester, old or new is up to you. The Forester has been available in manual with a non-turbo for ages. The new ones gained some space & refinement. Stick with 2005+ models unless you can verify the head gaskets were done already though. My Jetta needs new suspension stat but I'm holding out for a bit.