Well I'm back....dealer frustrations

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It's been a couple years since I've posted. Reason being is I bought a new truck in 2014, a 3.5 Ecoboost. I took it to the dealer around here just to keep up with paperwork and whatnot. So the fun begins. The very first oil change I get the paperwork back with 5w-20 6 quarts added. I showed it to the service manager and he said "that's what it takes, all Fords take 5w-20." I opened the hood and pointed to the cap that said 5w30. After some discussion he said "we use what the cap calls for, its just a typo." Didn't feel like arguing so I left. (Yes, I know you can use 5w-20, but I prefer what Ford specs). Then on the ride home, the cover to the oil pan (carpet thing) falls off on the freeway. So I had to take off work and spend two hours while they got me a new one.

The same exact thing happed to me again the next time (5w-20, cover fall off). I spoke to a manager to express my frustration. He said he'll comp the next oil change. This is literally the only Ford dealer in town and I don't want to make the 40 min round trip to the next town.

It was after that second visit I realize why I always did this myself. Went to wally, purchased 6 quarts of Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 (5 quart jug was 12.22 after MIR)and a Motorcraft filter. No wrong spec oil issues, nothing falling off, and I knew things were done right. Glad to be back
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The "right oil in engine, wrong oil on receipt" thing is plausible, but it's still on your stinkin' receipt.
 
It's certainly not a good idea to use a thinner oil than spec'd in my opinion, so that's a big mess up on their part. This is why I just do my own oil changes. Oil changes are so simple, I don't understand how so many shops & dealers mess it up. Especially when they spend all day doing it.
 
Originally Posted By: Branson304
...I don't understand how so many shops & dealers mess it up. Especially when they spend all day doing it.


Because usually the oil guy is a min wage hire...
 
I recall when all the Ecoboosts first came out, they were all taking 5w-20. Should be fine if you don't tow with yours.
Did they change the spec (back-spec) in those trucks at some point?
Of course, why a dealership wouldn't know is just nuts.
 
I have free oil changes for 2 years and I'd still rather do it myself.

If they screw up an oil change, wonder how well they can do harder stuff like spark plugs.
 
Originally Posted By: lubricatosaurus
I recall when all the Ecoboosts first came out, they were all taking 5w-20. Should be fine if you don't tow with yours.
Did they change the spec (back-spec) in those trucks at some point?
Of course, why a dealership wouldn't know is just nuts.


The 2009 and 2010 Ecoboost 3.5's in the SHO, MKS, MKT, Flex all took 5w20. For 2011 ALL Ecoboosts got 5w30, car, truck, whatnot. The 09-10 were never back spec'ed to 5w30. Nobody seems to know why but they hold up just fine on 5w20. (Mine just turned 96k)

That dealer is an idiot.
 
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Originally Posted By: RISUPERCREWMAN
Time to ditch those idiots and find a better service center!


Exactly. I'm sure you told them the 2nd time it took 5w30 too!

My understanding is that a 20wt oil shears down too much in the DI/turbo so Ford specifies 30 wt.....
 
Yep, doing my own oil changes even though they are "free" for the first two years or 25K on my Toyota. I don't trust anything they say or write regarding oil changes or much else.
 
Originally Posted By: mmmmoil
I showed it to the service manager and he said "that's what it takes, all Fords take 5w-20."


This would have been enough to make me run. How can the supposed service manager say this knowing it's not true?

I'd be interested in drawing a sample to check the viscosity. If it's a 20 grade, I'd go straight to Ford customer service and demand an extended power-train warranty because the servicing dealer used an oil too thin in viscosity for the engine in question.
 
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Originally Posted By: Branson304
...I don't understand how so many shops & dealers mess it up. Especially when they spend all day doing it.


Because usually the oil guy is a min wage hire...


I once worked at a dealer where the oil guy was an oil GAL. She was actually pretty good at what she did, except for a few certain days of the month...if you know what I mean.
It was predictable too. The techs would have the days marked on their calendar as an oncoming storm. On more than one occasion, she blew up at the service writer and stormed out screaming and went home. I'm not sure why it was tolerated, unless the service writer and the dealership owner had a wife of their own like that.
 
Originally Posted By: zuluplus30
Originally Posted By: mmmmoil
I showed it to the service manager and he said "that's what it takes, all Fords take 5w-20."


This would have been enough to make me run. How can the supposed service manager say this knowing it's not true?

I'd be interested in drawing a sample to check the viscosity. If it's a 20 grade, I'd go straight to Ford customer service and demand an extended power-train warranty because the servicing dealer used an oil too thin in viscosity for the engine in question.


Really,
For first point - Do you really think it would affect durability that much to matter ? Really ? Unless it was REALLY used hard - it wouldn't make a pinch of c.r.a.p difference...

and two... Good luck with that...
Some people have nothing better to do with their time...
Ford would be so pleasant to your face.. and laugh in the back room at break about people like you... As would most anyone else..

BurrWinder
 
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