I've found that 1C is about equal to 1.8F. My Hyundais only report coolant temp in 1C increments, the oil temp is 1/4C
Weather reporting has jumped the shark
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Part of beating the drum for climate change.
Story 1: We had some small tornadoes here a few weeks ago. Interview on local radio following day, reporters ask guy from NWS leading question to effect of, “it feels like our climate is changing and this didn’t happen years ago . . . .” NWS guy, somewhat surprisingly, doesn’t take the bait and says the type and frequency of tornadoes in the area is well precedented.
Story 2: we used to vacation in Sanibel. Went there for many years. Thought about buying a place and went to the library to do some history reading. Apparently the island is devastated by a hurricane every 40-50 years. It actually used to be an ag/ranching site until one storm washed away all the produce and the livestock. And the lighthouse is the fourth or fifth built since the island was settled, since the others all washed away. My facts may be rusty but you get the idea. So we passed. 2022 storm comes and devastates the island and everyone pronounces climate change as the reason. Now, climate change may have contributed at the margins, but the reality is that this is a barrier island in a hurricane zone and gets hit pretty regularly in historical terms, it is just that those periods are far enough apart not to be noticed by the media, since people today typically don’t know any history beyond last week. Plus people are arrogant enough to build ocean front homes in front of the natural barriers (e.g. mangroves in SW Florida) so they get a better view of the ocean. Kind of like telling people not to chase returns in the markets. You can lead a horse to water but cannot make him drink . . . .
Story 3: WSJ news story from last summer reporting on climate change. Story uses as central premise an ice cream vendor in Dubai, UAE, in July, who testifies how hot Dubai has gotten in July. Dubai hot in July? Really? Who would have thought that? Clearly more evidence of climate change.
You can’t make this stuff up. And the WSJ is an expensive subscription. Problem is what is the alternative if even the Journal prints this crap?
The environmental zealots are the single largest threat to our future development, economic prosperity, and individual freedom. People need to wake up. We are long past the point of sensible environmental regulation and now almost any limitation of personal freedom or economic choice is rationalized via some combination of environmental reasons that include climate change. As the late and great Ronald Reagan warned us, when government expands, freedom shrinks, as neatly and predictable as a law of physics.
Happy belated Father’s Day to all the dads.
Story 1: We had some small tornadoes here a few weeks ago. Interview on local radio following day, reporters ask guy from NWS leading question to effect of, “it feels like our climate is changing and this didn’t happen years ago . . . .” NWS guy, somewhat surprisingly, doesn’t take the bait and says the type and frequency of tornadoes in the area is well precedented.
Story 2: we used to vacation in Sanibel. Went there for many years. Thought about buying a place and went to the library to do some history reading. Apparently the island is devastated by a hurricane every 40-50 years. It actually used to be an ag/ranching site until one storm washed away all the produce and the livestock. And the lighthouse is the fourth or fifth built since the island was settled, since the others all washed away. My facts may be rusty but you get the idea. So we passed. 2022 storm comes and devastates the island and everyone pronounces climate change as the reason. Now, climate change may have contributed at the margins, but the reality is that this is a barrier island in a hurricane zone and gets hit pretty regularly in historical terms, it is just that those periods are far enough apart not to be noticed by the media, since people today typically don’t know any history beyond last week. Plus people are arrogant enough to build ocean front homes in front of the natural barriers (e.g. mangroves in SW Florida) so they get a better view of the ocean. Kind of like telling people not to chase returns in the markets. You can lead a horse to water but cannot make him drink . . . .
Story 3: WSJ news story from last summer reporting on climate change. Story uses as central premise an ice cream vendor in Dubai, UAE, in July, who testifies how hot Dubai has gotten in July. Dubai hot in July? Really? Who would have thought that? Clearly more evidence of climate change.
You can’t make this stuff up. And the WSJ is an expensive subscription. Problem is what is the alternative if even the Journal prints this crap?
The environmental zealots are the single largest threat to our future development, economic prosperity, and individual freedom. People need to wake up. We are long past the point of sensible environmental regulation and now almost any limitation of personal freedom or economic choice is rationalized via some combination of environmental reasons that include climate change. As the late and great Ronald Reagan warned us, when government expands, freedom shrinks, as neatly and predictable as a law of physics.
Happy belated Father’s Day to all the dads.
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Yes, 1 degree C x 9/5 = 1.8 degrees F*. I try to do head math rather than use a calculator, so instead of multiplying by 9 and dividing by 5, it's usually easier for me to multiply by 2 and subtract 10%.
* In an incremental sense only! A temperature of 1°C = 32 + 1.8 = 33.8°F.
E.g.
As an incremental temperature:
1°C x 9/5 = 1.8°F
or
1°C x 2 = 2 - 10% = 2- 0.2 = 1.8°F
But for an absolute temperature:
10°C = (10 x 9/5) + 32 = 18 + 32 = 50°F
or
10°C = (2 x 10) - (2 x 10)/10 + 32 = 20 - 20/10 + 32 = 20 - 2 + 32 = 18 + 32 = 50
Training AI engines.
UK "26c is hot"
Me "laughs in New Mexican"
Me "laughs in New Mexican"
https://www.noaa.gov/news/may-2024-was-earths-warmest-may-on-record
I used to follow Joe Bastardi of AccuWeather years ago. He's now with Weather Bell Analytics. I wonder if he still doesn't believe GW is occurring?
Unfortunately the media will hype/sensationalize anything they can that will invoke fear and drive ratings.
I used to follow Joe Bastardi of AccuWeather years ago. He's now with Weather Bell Analytics. I wonder if he still doesn't believe GW is occurring?
Unfortunately the media will hype/sensationalize anything they can that will invoke fear and drive ratings.
What's the trick to working in heat and humidity?
I like to drink water / keep up with electrolytes and take naps.
Work slowly, stop and cool off when my nose starts running. They use to give us salt pills at work until they decided that was no good. Then lemonade but that was full of sugar.
I was outside this morning for a couple hours working with the tree logs at the bank. Soaked to the bone in sweat. Came in and had some watermelon and cooling off.
It’s one month…
Seriously….
Human life has always, always been easier when warmer vs colder…. Prolonged cold shortened growing seasons, kill livestock much easier, loss of aggregate farming acreage has well…. Our great great great grandparents understood first hand how hard life was when it was way colder than average vs warmer than average.
A warm series of winters made human life much, much easier on people from the early 1900s going back into antiquity.
Hell I saw where my are in February 2015 we were 14 degrees below normal for a month… It was darn cool for sure…
Ohh by the way…. December 2014 was super warm too… In my area average high temperatures were nearly 13 degrees above for the month… People were much less affected by that warm December than that super cold February… Guarantee it.
It’s called weather..: That number2 happens. Well way above average and then… way way below average.
And how long have temperatures been accurate taken for ?
Think about it ..
I don’t think Chief Wonpachee had a mercury thermometer in 1000 AD or 2,000 BC…..
And do you truly notice a real difference in your daily everyday life it a months where the temperature is 2.3 degrees above average for a month ?
Do you ?
I highly, highly, highly, doubt it.
I know that when it’s above normal just by the overall temperature pattern. Yes I notice that. Because I pay a whole of attention to this stuff.
However like this past winter I did not notice it being warmer than average have any affect on my life in ANY meaningful way.
That didn’t happen.
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I'm not alarmed by it like many are. But I do think humans have accelerated the change. And with that change will come many unforeseen changes to many ecosystems, weather events and who knows what.
It is true that it's been hotter and colder in the past. It's also true that the climate will always change. I suppose the rate of change we 're causing is the concern and how we will adapt to it.
True…:
Been awhile. My area has not seen a high temperature above 100 degrees in quite awhile,
My Dad was a weatherman in the Navy. He advised me that before delivering your weather report, stick your head outside and take a look.
As computers advance, so does weather forecasting. It should get better with time.
So…
What ??
I don’t care…
How much asphalt, steel and concrete was around in the 1880s ?
How many people lived in massive cities filled with asphalt, concrete and steel ???
Funny… go look at places away from those massive cities….
Temperatures far closer to what they were back in time.
Please tell me if we had people with temperature probes back in 1000 ad ?
2000 BC ? 5,000 BC ?
And please tell me if You notice any di in YOUR adult life if it 2.4 degrees warmer F ?
Please tell me that answer…
We had a massive ice sheet that covered a lot of North America…
It’s been receding for a whole lot of a long time now….
That….. Has been a net positive for humankind….
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And
yet.. It has not hardly improved by any measurable amount since m the last 20 plus years.
Where are the precise perfect temperature forecast for a 6-10 day period of time ? 8-14 day period of time ?
The only thing the GFS and NAM and any other computer model is decent at is overall jetstream pattern… And that is like 80 percent of the time … at day 6-10 and day 8-14 day time frames…
That I have noted on here before…..
In relation to hurricane prediction…
When relying on computer modles and now they use AI too it all depends on the quality of the input. I'd say as of the last year or two they have missed the mark more than made it and it seems the rainfall forecast is always big then fizzles out as time goes on.
We also spend billions around the world on weather modification. What effect does that have?
We just disagree… That happens… Life goes on. I like buster and JeffK… we just disagree and that’s ok. You all take care..
Bellow is my final thoughts on this subject.
If you all looked at these models routinely you may just understand my thoughts and questions about them….
I have been reading them for 20 plus years… And I use them for sure.
But they are only a tool…
And the are up for interpretation…. That’s a fact…
And I have seen ROUTINELY people get them wrong…
I have been wrong at times too… No doubt. Being perfectly candid I have been right a lot more than others have been at doing that. Though I also have a much deeper understanding when things don’t go the way others have predicted…
I give them a lot of understanding in those circumstances because I know what they were using and looking at.
I look at the climate pages on the NWS routinely…The CPC I have routinely visited… I look at the day 6-10 and 8-14day forecast routinely… Have done so for over 2 decades now…
I’m sorry… I have not much confidence in other people’s motives or skills at using these models.
Bellow is my final thoughts on this subject.
If you all looked at these models routinely you may just understand my thoughts and questions about them….
I have been reading them for 20 plus years… And I use them for sure.
But they are only a tool…
And the are up for interpretation…. That’s a fact…
And I have seen ROUTINELY people get them wrong…
I have been wrong at times too… No doubt. Being perfectly candid I have been right a lot more than others have been at doing that. Though I also have a much deeper understanding when things don’t go the way others have predicted…
I give them a lot of understanding in those circumstances because I know what they were using and looking at.
I look at the climate pages on the NWS routinely…The CPC I have routinely visited… I look at the day 6-10 and 8-14day forecast routinely… Have done so for over 2 decades now…
I’m sorry… I have not much confidence in other people’s motives or skills at using these models.
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