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Quite a bit of the state is plains, with some rolling hills to the east and southeast. More and bigger trees in the hills, lots of low black oaks elsewhere.

Tell her that my Narcissus, Hyacinths, and Irises starting coming up about a week ago. The backyard sweetgum is budding, the leaves will be out shortly. Next month, we'll be in shirt sleeves. On the other side of the year, things don't really get cold until the second half of November, sometimes later.

Lots of really good people live here, I'd never experienced anything quite like it. Just don't tell too many people you're moving here. We've already had an influx of self-entitled, superficial 'migrants' from other states (ahem housing bubble ahem california) moving into the suburbs.

The state legislature is currently considering an open carry law to go along with our concealed carry, 'castle law' and 'stand your ground' law.

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If you own a car, you're free to do dang near anything you want with it on private property, no insurance, no license, etc. You're also not liable for anybody else's actions should they use your car.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the insurance lobby pushed for this Illinois bill. Nothing gets done unless somebody's going to make money on it.
 
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How many venomous critters reside in OK? That's usually the liability of a favorable geezer climate. Too many things that sliver, crawl, and/or swim in FL and LA and the like. Even AZ has its scorpions and whatnot. My departed aunt used to find them when the cat would be playing with them.
 
Lived off and on in Oklahoma for about 10 years. Lots of critters, lots of things that chew on you; fire ants, red ants, scorpions, brown recluse, black widow, tarantula (nice pets, rarely bite), yellow jacket, hornets, chiggers, ticks, skeeters, snapping turtles (don't play them while drinking), rattlers, water moccasins, copperheads, some hairy caterpillars, centipedes.

I miss going thru small towns and getting a burger and shake, lightening bugs, horny toads, the thunderstorms although they can be dangerous, hot days in the country listening to the locusts singing, and other things. Don't miss the humidity, the biting bugs. People were good, more polite than usual, with some strangers being unbelievably helpful.
 
My wife is a transplant from Oklahoma and even after 11 years in Pennsylvania, she still won't sit in the grass due to memories of chiggers.
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That's what I suspected. This is further proof of Universal Law = UL. No solutions ..just exchanges of problems (GOD'S law - shhh!)
 
Are you telling me that Oklahoma is better than Texas? LOL!

With this or any other legislation, it opens the doors for future regulations and controls. Lawsuits will drive the rates up and up, no doubt, even if initially they are reasonable.
 
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Originally Posted By: jsharp
One would think that if liability from firearm misuse was such a huge problem, that the insurance companies would already be on top of it. They never seem to miss a chance to assess and mitigate risk.

When I got my homeowners policy they did ask if I had a swimming pool. They didn't ask if I had any firearms. That says something about the risk I think...


All too true...It costs me 2/3 less to be in the rifle club than if I played Hockey, due to shooting being the safest sport in the country...my SSAA membership with $7M of liability cover costs me $70 (and I get $70 of magazines)
 
Originally Posted By: GeaugaFletcher
If you own a car, you're free to do dang near anything you want with it on private property, no insurance, no license, etc. You're also not liable for anybody else's actions should they use your car.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the insurance lobby pushed for this Illinois bill. Nothing gets done unless somebody's going to make money on it.


If you are over the limit operating a car or a boat, on private property or not, you will go for a row of brick dunnies down here.

If you hurt someone, they will treat you exactly the same as if you were on the road...except you are uninsured.
 
Gary Allen's right - it's an exchange of problems. Chiggers, ticks and snapping turtles do suck, but on the balance, I like it here much better... :) My family down here has run into: chiggers, ticks, cat eaten by coyotes and scorpions. Chiggers and ticks are the biggest look-out, the other stuff is easily avoided if you pay attention.

I must say I'm glad not to live in a prison on an island, no hard feelings.
 
Dude, I did the "prisoner on an island" thing: Guam for 10 years. It was fun and all, but when you stop to think where your actually at on the earth, it can spook you a little. You'd also pray that there wasn't a shipping strike. I'm with ya'll on problem exchanges. I lived in TN for about 10 years: too cold in the winter and too humid in the summer. Born in N.C. and didn't care for the humidity either. Now, where I live in Chickasha, about 40 miles SW of OKC, we don't have humidity issues. Just hot, but a dry heat....ha ha ha and there is always a breeze. Bugs? That's what bug spray is for. But lots of wide open spaces and generally nice people.
 
I was born in Oklahoma (Chickasha) and we moved to Dallas when I was a small child. I lived in Texas for 40 years before moving to WI. I've been here for almost 20 years and I've seen enough snow. WI is a beautiful place to live and the people up here are great, but the cost of living just plain sucks.

If I move back to Oklahoma it will be somewhere between Lawton and Chickasha. And the way to get rid of chiggers is to plant St. Augustine grass. Chiggers don't like it. Believe me, if it bites in Oklahoma, it's bites in Texas, and I've been bitten by most of them at one time or another.

I will say this about WI, I have not seen one scorpion since I've been here, no fire ants, and no cock roaches. Maybe WI is not so bad after all.
 
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I'm sure he privately loves it and jumps up and down in joy at the thought of it, publicly the most you will get would probably be the equivalent of 'no comment'.
 
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
That's what I suspected. This is further proof of Universal Law = UL. No solutions ..just exchanges of problems (GOD'S law - shhh!)


Exactly. Up here in MN, we have long, cold, dark winters. But we don't have to deal with venomous spiders, scorpions, poisonous snakes, creepy crawlies, roaches, things of that nature. Everything is a trade off. No area is perfect!
 
Unlike here, we have long cold winters, hot summers, funnelwebs, redbacks, whitetails, brown snakes, black snakes, copperheads and ticks. Bushfires, frozen pipes, black ice and ticks.

And it's pretty close to perfect.

Oh yeah, the rifle range is in the middle of town :D
 
Nope.

When I was 15, they were legal in my state and one other on .22LR. By the time that I was 21 they were illegal. Makes a rabbit hunt more effective for sure.

In New Zealand they are still legal and encouraged on ranges near residential areas IIRC.
 
"Oh yeah, the rifle range is in the middle of town"

The area around here is growing up around the one that use to be on edge of the next town over, and it's a five or so minute drive from the town I live in. A humble 100 yd range with shooting off of the bench only. It use to be county but now it's private and really too expensive to shoot at.

The best that I've used was in 'ultra liberal gun hating southern California' (not), a 25 to 100 yd range with covered bays for bench or position shooting, pistol, blackpowder, etc., and we would also set up obstacles for practcal pistol shoots. We could also shoot at Camp Pendleton for the highpower matches out to 600 yds, and sometimes 1000 yd matches but I never shot at those. Those were military ranges with range officers, towers, raised shooting areas, range flags and target butts. Some of the Marine team shooters would sometimes shoot at our club matches.
 
We are very lucky here.

The Small Arms factory was built to supply the Oz army with the SMLE, and had a 900 yard range out the back. Our club house it at the 600 yard mound, and behind the club house, we've got a 100 yard rimfire range. There are houses alongside the range up to about the 800 yard mounds. Proper Butts at the main range with movable target frames etc.

(Haven't shot past 600 yards with my CZ 527)

The Small Arms Factory was a major employer, so the neighbours are fairly tolerant of our weekend activities, and we are careful to not let off any centrefires before 9AM.

Range is not licenced for any metallic targets, or targets mid way up the range.
 
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