VWB or QS realy cheap wich one?

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Our vendor in my shop carries only valvoline conv. or Quaker state conv. I can get it for my own vehicles at there cost,(probably less than 2 bucks a quart) wich one would you use? I have already gone with valvoline but would like opinions, I am sticking with the mc blend for the escape.
I have used quaker state for years with success but feel like the choice would be harder if it was Pennzoil conventional vs Valvoline conventional it seems the Valvoline conventional is a notch above the QS but not much info available for the QS
 
If the choice was between those two, I'd definetly go with the QS.

Both are good oils, but if you look at VOA's/used oil analysis, you'll see the QS has a 'stouter' add-pack - 40-60ppm of moly, and over 100ppm of Boron that the Valvoline conventional doesn't have......
 
I would go with the white bottle, personally. used oil analysis don't show everything, and Valvoline is known to use Ashless additives. They are both very good, though. The thing I dislike about Valvoline though is that on their website their FAQ section is a complete joke.
 
Originally Posted By: ThirdeYe
I would go with the white bottle, personally. used oil analysis don't show everything, and Valvoline is known to use Ashless additives. They are both very good, though. The thing I dislike about Valvoline though is that on their website their FAQ section is a complete joke.


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It seems like you never realy know ,because what one lacks in moly etc. could be made up with something else, after much scientific analysis and research I am pretty sure I like the Valvoline conventional cuz it smells better and and is more clear (big grin)
 
I would go with the QS green bottle for sure. I used that stuff my whole life on all my engines after an old timer mechanic that lived next door who rebuilt engines for a living and was constantly tearing them down showed me what the internals of a Quaker State Conventional looked like. It was PRISTINE! All my cars were always amazing and never gave me problems. I don't use it anymore b/c I'm a synthetic guy now (GC, Pennzoil Platinum 5w30, Mobil 1 0w-40) but if I had that choice to make, I wouldn't hesitate to get the Quaker State Conventional and I wouldn't worry a bit. Great dino.
 
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Originally Posted By: ThirdeYe
I would go with the white bottle, personally. used oil analysis don't show everything, and Valvoline is known to use Ashless additives. They are both very good, though. The thing I dislike about Valvoline though is that on their website their FAQ section is a complete joke.


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I don't believe Ashless additives show up in a used oil analysis.
 
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Originally Posted By: lexus114
Originally Posted By: ThirdeYe
I would go with the white bottle, personally. used oil analysis don't show everything, and Valvoline is known to use Ashless additives. They are both very good, though. The thing I dislike about Valvoline though is that on their website their FAQ section is a complete joke.


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I don't believe Ashless additives show up in a used oil analysis.



I dont think ASH has anything to do with registering on a spectrometer. I "think" they go by color signature of the individual element. I don't "think" a spectrometer registers compounds (but it does read Moly???...Hmmm). Each element has it's unique color fingerprint which is caused by excited electrons.
 
If you are running Valvoline now, stick to it. It hardly sounds there is much difference. If you stick to the same thing, if there ever is trouble, you have fewer variables to sort out to find the cause.

Note, this Valvoline recommendation comes from a disgruntled former Ashland Chemical employee. I would never spend a dime on it.
 
People here have contacted Valvoline and they have stated that WB contains a significant amount of group 3 oil. Only thing I don't like about WB is that they use sodium as an additive. Makes it harder to determine if your car has a coolant leak from used oil analysis.
 
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Originally Posted By: labman
If you are running Valvoline now, stick to it. It hardly sounds there is much difference. If you stick to the same thing, if there ever is trouble, you have fewer variables to sort out to find the cause.

Note, this Valvoline recommendation comes from a disgruntled former Ashland Chemical employee. I would never spend a dime on it.


Spill the beans on their WB blend. I know there is over 60-70% group 3 in there.
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