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Originally Posted By: Vikas
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A decade or more in the automotive industry is like a century in many ways. There's no way you can compare a VW built in 2003, to one built in the past five or so years. In any case I have two of the older ones a 1984 Rabbit GTI and 1996 Golf GL and both have been much more reliable, trouble free, and cheaper to service than any Honda or Toyota I've owned.
What kind of logic are you using here? You are discounting something built in last ten years and then touting something which was bought 20/30 years ago?
Auto and oil industry logic. We make cars with less, like BMW M3 CSL, and charge more for them.. You cannot compare the logic of 10 years ago to 20/30 years ago, it's a lot like a century. Adjusted for inflation, the old cars are a better value, more reliable, and less POS. Guaranteed he is not talking about the diesel Rabbit, though.
How was that
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A decade or more in the automotive industry is like a century in many ways. There's no way you can compare a VW built in 2003, to one built in the past five or so years. In any case I have two of the older ones a 1984 Rabbit GTI and 1996 Golf GL and both have been much more reliable, trouble free, and cheaper to service than any Honda or Toyota I've owned.
What kind of logic are you using here? You are discounting something built in last ten years and then touting something which was bought 20/30 years ago?
Auto and oil industry logic. We make cars with less, like BMW M3 CSL, and charge more for them.. You cannot compare the logic of 10 years ago to 20/30 years ago, it's a lot like a century. Adjusted for inflation, the old cars are a better value, more reliable, and less POS. Guaranteed he is not talking about the diesel Rabbit, though.
How was that
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What i do hate is that the leaders have taken this proud brand and cheapened its reputation with this unnecessary nonsense.
Could not agree more. A storm in a teacup.
What i do hate is that the leaders have taken this proud brand and cheapened its reputation with this unnecessary nonsense.
Could not agree more. A storm in a teacup.
No I'm bringing up the fact that things like reliability can change dramatically depending on the time the vehicles were built, back in the mid-late 90s VW reliability was really pretty good, as good or better than competitive products, then things got worse, and in the past decade that has changed again.
Just checked the 2015 JD Powers reliability charts for 2015 (VDS), and the VW has 165 per 100 vehicles reported problems versus the industrial average of 147. This is the 2015 study, and based as follows
The study, now in its 26th year, examines problems experienced during the past 12 months by original owners of 2012 model-year vehicles.
The Initial Quality for 2015 models (IQ) owned for 90 days also shows VW below the industrial average of 112 problems per 100 vehicles. VW has 123.
Sorry, don't see how VW is ranked in the top of any report for reliability.
Just checked the 2015 JD Powers reliability charts for 2015 (VDS), and the VW has 165 per 100 vehicles reported problems versus the industrial average of 147. This is the 2015 study, and based as follows
The study, now in its 26th year, examines problems experienced during the past 12 months by original owners of 2012 model-year vehicles.
The Initial Quality for 2015 models (IQ) owned for 90 days also shows VW below the industrial average of 112 problems per 100 vehicles. VW has 123.
Sorry, don't see how VW is ranked in the top of any report for reliability.
JD power is more based on who pays them the most. Ask me how I know
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JD power is more based on who pays them the most. Ask me how I know
JDP is a joke.
This is absolutely true, not only that the way they calculate their data is NOT available for public inspection, and the definition of problems is questionable as well, this could be anything from a blown engine, to a customer who is unable to operate the computer aided systems even when the problem is customer incompetence, not functional defects.
JD power is more based on who pays them the most. Ask me how I know
JDP is a joke.
This is absolutely true, not only that the way they calculate their data is NOT available for public inspection, and the definition of problems is questionable as well, this could be anything from a blown engine, to a customer who is unable to operate the computer aided systems even when the problem is customer incompetence, not functional defects.
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