Valvoline VP094 Trans Flush/Conditioner at dealer

[chevys10]

Hello...

Anyone heard of this stuff? I recently purchased a 2007 Accord V6 from a family member who had it maintained exclusively at the dealership. In looking at the service records I noticed that for the transmission flush they listed VP094 which I looked up to be a Valvoline 2 part flush product used in flush machines. I am concerned for two reasons...

1) Why is a Honda dealer is using a flush machine when everything I have read including Honda service bulletins say not to flush the transmission but do a drain and fill procedure?

2) Why is the dealer adding the Valvoline VP094? With all of the transmission issue history I am amazed that the dealership would do this.

I am about to embark on a fact finding mission with the dealership and the Honda tech line. I am probably going to drain the fluid in the car and replace with DW-1. I might also get a UOA of the trans fluid. Here is what the data sheet says for the Valvoline 2 part conditioner/cleaner..

VALVOLINE PROFESSIONAL SERIES AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION SERVICE KIT
• A 2-step professional service
• Designed for use with an automatic transmission fluid exchange machine
• Cleans & Conditions the entire automatic transmission system
• Valvoline professional sries automatic transmission flush safely removes deposits
• Valvoline professional series transmission protector, conditioner & sealer helps maintain shifting performance
Valvoline Professional Series Automatic Transmission Service Kit is designed to clean the entire automatic transmission when used with an automatic transmission exchange machine. A conventional transmission service only removes a small portion of the contaminated fluid. Only the fluid in the pan gets replaced, leaving contaminated fluid in the rest of the automatic transmission system. A conventional transmission service does not include a flush which can leave contaminants on the valve body and transmission cooler.
Valvoline Professional Series Automatic Transmission Service Kit is a two step, professional process to provide the best cleaning and protection available. Valvoline professional series automatic transmission flush contains cleaners designed to remove deposits from the transmission system; which if left in place, could cause sluggish shifting and reduced heat transfer. Valvoline professional series automatic transmission flush safely removes deposits when used as directed. Valvoline professional series transmission protector, conditioner & sealer helps maintain shifting characteristics and protection from wear. It conditions seals to help prevent leaks and helps protect transmission fluid from high temperature breakdown. Valvoline professional series transmission protector, conditioner & sealer is compatible with all types of transmission fluid.
Technical Data
Automatic Transmission Flush
Appearance
Clear brown liquid
Specific gravity @ 60 F
0.8190
Flash point, TCC, F
156
Transmission Protector, Conditioner & Sealer
Appearance
Clear red liquid
Specific gravity @ 60 F
0.8755
Flash point, COC, F, min.
350
This information only applies to products manufactured in the following location(s):
Effective Date: 3/18/14

 

[camperbob]

Here is the thing with flushes. If the vehicle had 100k on it, no fluid changes and then was flushed-light on.

If it started slipping and someone thought it would fix it-light on.

If you have driven the vehicle and it shifts fine, IMO you are really giving yourself a headache for nothing. Its already in there, and you already own the vehicle. Where flushing spells trouble is when the cleaners have broken down, then its flushed, which has released deposits that can end up where they shouldn't.

Not sure what facts you are spending time searching for. if it goes out, you're going to have to fix it. If it works fine, it works fine. I would drain and fill if it was mine

 

[Ethan1]

Why? Because management, service writers, and technicians all get a spiff for every flush sold. To [censored] with manufacturer specs!

 

[bourne]

LOL, we use that kit everyday, its fine. All it is, is a booster shot of detergents already present in your transmission in the first bottle. You pour it in, let it run for about 15 mins in your trans, cycle through gears. Then you hook up to the high and low side on the trans, let the trans pump "pull" fresh fluid in while "pushing" old fluid out. Then you top off with a seal conditioner, which again, is nothing but additives present in your fluid but in a higher amount. No one "flushes" transmissions these days, the machines have capability of pushing the fluid in, but we just let the transmission do its own thing. Have not had any comebacks or issues. Not to mention being able to give the customer the max amount of fresh fluid possible while wasting the least. Did it exactly the same way on my Acura and my Infiniti and no issues yet.

 

[bourne]

Also 07-08 Accords do not have any transmission issues, Honda beefed up the trans after the prev model failure debacle.