Valvoline Restore & Protect 5W-30 VOA

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Bottle said B2425C5 23:05 which I interpret to mean it was made in February 2025. I'll plan to use this oil permanantly in this Bronco. Changed from M1 AFE 0W-30.
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I'm not sure why I got TAN and no TBN, last time I wrote in the remarks "request TBN" and they called me and said they always do TBN, but @Furyus67 did one for this oil here that indicated TBN 6.50.
 
Bottle said B2425C5 23:05 which I interpret to mean it was made in February 2025. I'll plan to use this oil permanantly in this Bronco. Changed from M1 AFE 0W-30.
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I'm not sure why I got TAN and no TBN, last time I wrote in the remarks "request TBN" and they called me and said they always do TBN, but @Furyus67 did one for this oil that indicated TBN 6.50.
Do the 2.7s have any history of clogged oil control rings or compression rings, for that matter? Just wondering why you’ve decided this as the last oil that’s targeted for something your engine family hasn’t shown propensity to suffer from. Thanks for the VOA, though, looks just like an API SP should.
 
Do the 2.7s have any history of clogged oil control rings or compression rings, for that matter? Just wondering why you’ve decided this as the last oil that’s targeted for something your engine family hasn’t shown propensity to suffer from. Thanks for the VOA, though, looks just like an API SP should.

Mostly just jumping on the bandwagon. I don't know of any particular ring problems with the 2.7's. If anything the weak point on the motor would seem to be the wet belt driven oil pump and the VCT phasers, although I've not heard of any failures concering the former. The VRP was the same price as AFE & seems to have a higher HTHS but similar properties to AFE in most other (limited) respects that can be gleaned from a VOA. There seems to be a slight possiblity that VRP might prevent future problems that other oils would not. I did a few long-ish 7000 mile OCI's on motorcraft 5W-30 blend with this motor before I came to BITOG so I was slightly concerned there might've been some slight amount of build up from that, not knowing at the time what I was doing.

I was only using the M1 AFE 0W-30 because it was the only 0W-30 I could easily procure that had the ford WSS-M2C-963-A1 spec. I learned from BITOG that 0W isn't necessary even for my climate; even though it's Alaska the record low in Anchorage is only -34F in 1975. On the average winter day the low is only 11F, plus the vehicle mostly lives in a heated garage (garage is a recent change in the past 6 months). I also learned that the ford spec is nothing more than a mirror of API SP/ILSAC GF-6a.

I'm running HPL PP PCMO 0W-30 in my other Bronco and will entertain myself with the futile and pointless exercise of comparing UOA's, and since I plan on never selling these (that's what we all say), comparing any maintenance problems in the future.
 
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Mostly just jumping on the bandwagon. I don't know of any particular ring problems with the 2.7's. If anything the weak point on the motor would seem to be the wet belt driven oil pump and the VCT phasers, although I've not heard of any failures concering the former. The VRP was the same price as AFE & seems to have a higher HTHS but similar properties to AFE in most other (limited) respects that can be gleaned from a VOA. There seems to be a slight possiblity that VRP might prevent future problems that other oils would not. I did a few long-ish 7000 mile OCI's on motorcraft 5W-30 blend with this motor before I came to BITOG so I was slightly concerned there might've been some slight amount of build up from that, not knowing at the time what I was doing.

I was only using the M1 AFE 0W-30 because it was the only 0W-30 I could easily procure that had the ford WSS-M2C-963-A1 spec. I learned from BITOG that 0W isn't really a factor even for my climate; even though it's Alaska the record low in Anchorage is only -34F in 1975. On the average winter day the low is only 11F, plus the vehicle mostly lives in a heated garage (garage is a recent change in the past 6 months). I also learned that the ford spec is nothing more than a mirror of API SP/ILSAC GF-6a.

I'm running HPL PP PCMO 0W-30 in my other Bronco and will entertain myself with the futile and pointless exercise of comparing UOA's, and since I plan on never selling these (that's what we all say), comparing any maintenance problems in the future.
Yeah, you don’t really have much to worry about. Other than those super tiny intake tubes to the turbos, the 2.7 is one of the few that seem to have gotten almost everything right. They even put it in the Fusion Sport, which has to be a friggin handful!!!
 
That's the third VOA of this oil from Oil Analyzers in the last 2 months. All of them read the same. Was something expected to be different? I offer it as spending money on VOA's at this point with little return. Spend the money on oil!
 
That's the third VOA of this oil from Oil Analyzers in the last 2 months. All of them read the same. Was something expected to be different? I offer it as spending money on VOA's at this point with little return. Spend the money on oil!

Thank you for the feedback. Where is the third report from the last 2 months? I would like to view it. The previous one I saw for VRP 5W-30 was from over a year ago, aside from the one that was posted yesterday that I had no way to know about when I sent my sample in.
 
That's the third VOA of this oil from Oil Analyzers in the last 2 months. All of them read the same. Was something expected to be different? I offer it as spending money on VOA's at this point with little return. Spend the money on oil!
Like mentioned, some folks don't see it or send off the sample at the same time. Really depends on which lab you plan on using for your UOA & I'd recommend doing the VOA with that same lab. There are several good reasons to do a VOA. (y)
 
Looks like the most recent ones were posted basically at the same time, definitely overlapped. Apologies on the part about the last couple months. There was a post in February from a VOA done in January of last year of the restore and protect.

I'll shut my mouth, carry on.
 
Just curious, how come these tests come back positive with fuel via GC?

Great question for the chemists & scientists that we are fortunate to have participate on this website, but I don't know! It could be that there is a chemical in VRP that is also present in fuel (and therefore shows up on a gas chromatograph), or it could be due to laboratory/testing issues. However, since this oil seems to be showing fuel dilution on several VOA's, i'd lean more toward the former. I'm sure there are other possibilities so just consider this ignorant speculation from a non-scientist, non-statistician, non-chemist.

Normally the labs seem to not bother testing for fuel dilution if they know it's a VOA. I recently sent a UOA to a new-to-me lab and I paid $25 extra to get GC fuel dilution testing done. Then I got the restult and they didn't do GC fuel dilution, merely writing <1% on the UOA. I called them and they complained that GC testing was too expensive so they weren't going to do it.....I had to argue that I had paid extra up-front for the GC test and then 30 minutes later I got an amended report that said 0.7% fuel dilution. I wonder if they actually did it.
 
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