Using ChatGPT to Answer My Automotive Safety Questions

[Best F100]

With idle time on my hands, I wanted to see what kind of results I would get regarding ranking automobile safety between vehicles. The whole thing started, after seeing the recent documentary that aired, regarding the tragic Fort Worth, TX winter chain collision. If I am not mistaken, over 100 vehicles were involved in a pileup that began when the roads suddenly froze up. Several folks died in this collision.

My curiosity spurred me to ask, what type of commonly sold vehicle, would give you the best survival odds, (if given an option), when there is BOTH severe rear and front chain impacts. Some vehicles involved tractor trailers. During this collision, a tractor trailer “punted” a Toyota FJ Cruiser over the median into the oncoming lanes. The Toyota driver was able to walk away from it.

Right away, I started out with 1) Volvo XC 90. I also included 2) Volvo XC 60, 3) Subaru Ascent 4) Tesla Model Y 5) Ford F150 Lightning 6) Mercedes EQS and 7) Tesla Model S.

I told ChatGPT to also use vehicle gross weight, quantity and location of high strength and boron steel, to factor in, along with vehicle safety ratings, in it’s final determination.

I won’t get into the reasoning given by ChatGPT, but the best passenger survival odds were listed in the order you see above. I could argue that the F150 Lightning should be at the top of that list for gross weight and front frunk reasons alone. However, it would be pointless, because I would be arguing with an internet search and not an engineer.

Your comments?

 

[Patman]

Before it happens in this topic I just want to warn people not to post any AI generated content on here, it’s not allowed and it will be deleted

 

[eljefino]

So is the collision a foregone conclusion? IE a car that gets into fewer collisions per million miles doesn't factor into this, only the survivability of an inevitable wreck?

I wouldn't have thought the Subaru would have done that well.

 

[RoadDukie]

Busy night for our Mods...

 

[FowVay]

Before it happens in this topic I just want to warn people not to post any AI generated content on here, it’s not allowed and it will be deleted

Thank you!

 

[Arc]

Thats the problem with AI, it's not actually intelligent. Feed it a million websites full of opinion and it will then use them as fact because it has no way of confirming anything like people do. Truth means nothing to a machine.

 

[Hall]

it has no way of confirming anything like people do

How do people confirm data ?

 

[fantastic]

With idle time on my hands, I wanted to see what kind of results I would get regarding ranking automobile safety between vehicles. The whole thing started, after seeing the recent documentary that aired, regarding the tragic Fort Worth, TX winter chain collision. If I am not mistaken, over 100 vehicles were involved in a pileup that began when the roads suddenly froze up. Several folks died in this collision.

My curiosity spurred me to ask, what type of commonly sold vehicle, would give you the best survival odds, (if given an option), when there is BOTH severe rear and front chain impacts. Some vehicles involved tractor trailers. During this collision, a tractor trailer “punted” a Toyota FJ Cruiser over the median into the oncoming lanes. The Toyota driver was able to walk away from it.

Right away, I started out with 1) Volvo XC 90. I also included 2) Volvo XC 60, 3) Subaru Ascent 4) Tesla Model Y 5) Ford F150 Lightning 6) Mercedes EQS and 7) Tesla Model S.

I told ChatGPT to also use vehicle gross weight, quantity and location of high strength and boron steel, to factor in, along with vehicle safety ratings, in it’s final determination.

Your comments?

This is an excellent question & one that many think about. I started thinking more about this several years ago & it's what led me to my old 08' XC90. Obviously, no longer the safest vehicle out there but it was better than what I had (95' F250 (no airbags). Rear end collisions are kind of tricky since I think we no longer test for them for the gen pop to see?

Generally, the bigger you are the more protection. The heavier you are than the vehicle you crash into puts less force on your body. Generally, the newest vehicles have the safest ratings as the crash tests that evolve are harder to pass. Semi's are really end of life since they are so heavy & very little guardrail protection under the trailers.

ChatGPT seems to be pretty limited in its scope. For example a 2019-2020 BMW X3 is slightly safer with 0 vs the XC90's 4 deaths per 1 million vehicle model years.

Click on this link & go to the bottom to click on the PDF's that show death rates. For example you can see 2005-2008 models there were 7 vehicles with no driver death rates while the Nissan 350Z is a "death trap" (my words) based on the highest rate of deaths.

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/driver-death-rates-by-make-and-model

 

[Jethro_Bob]

How do people confirm data ?

A Good starting point is knowing the difference between reality and fiction. Then someone could work on knowing the difference between fact and opinion. Even when it is mislabeled. "In my opinion 2 +2 = 4, or its a fact that the best color is blue"

Then you have exceptions to the rules, If you have two ropes each with 2 knots, how many knots do you have if you add the ropes together? 5 because you tied the ropes together.

Not to mention all the pure misinformation on the web, it was only last weekend my phone's feed was filled with fake stimulus updates from legit looking sources.

 

[edyvw]

With idle time on my hands, I wanted to see what kind of results I would get regarding ranking automobile safety between vehicles. The whole thing started, after seeing the recent documentary that aired, regarding the tragic Fort Worth, TX winter chain collision. If I am not mistaken, over 100 vehicles were involved in a pileup that began when the roads suddenly froze up. Several folks died in this collision.

My curiosity spurred me to ask, what type of commonly sold vehicle, would give you the best survival odds, (if given an option), when there is BOTH severe rear and front chain impacts. Some vehicles involved tractor trailers. During this collision, a tractor trailer “punted” a Toyota FJ Cruiser over the median into the oncoming lanes. The Toyota driver was able to walk away from it.

Right away, I started out with 1) Volvo XC 90. I also included 2) Volvo XC 60, 3) Subaru Ascent 4) Tesla Model Y 5) Ford F150 Lightning 6) Mercedes EQS and 7) Tesla Model S.

I told ChatGPT to also use vehicle gross weight, quantity and location of high strength and boron steel, to factor in, along with vehicle safety ratings, in it’s final determination.

I won’t get into the reasoning given by ChatGPT, but the best passenger survival odds were listed in the order you see above. I could argue that the F150 Lightning should be at the top of that list for gross weight and front frunk reasons alone. However, it would be pointless, because I would be arguing with an internet search and not an engineer.

Your comments?

Every time some of my colleagues use ChtGPT, I spend twice the time to fix errors.