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I see the remote pilot drones are now armed with Hellfire missles. Why don't they have a gun-based version? The missles are too powerfull to use in areas where collateral damage is a concern. A gun RPV can loiter and carry 100s of rounds, shooting down on enemy fighters like a mini C-130 Spectre. All those gun-toting insurgents standing on the corner are fair game. Why aren't the skies in Iraq dark with these drones?

Another idea is something like those collars from Star Trek that can incapacitate and track, say males 15-50 years old. "Look Captian, the display shows 20 subjects gathering in a nearby building".

I also wonder if the US use what I would call "beeper mines". Like in Tora Bora, you could lay anti-personnel mines in the escape routes and they would be automaticly turned off by the approaching friendly forces, like with a coded beeper signal.

How about those drone things Darth Maul used to search for Anakin Skywalker? Cool.

We should have more remote camera positions set-up like they have in England, but in Iraq and Afganistan.


I figure the US is saving some of their best stuff for N.Korea.
 
They're using drones plenty.

You state that they should maybe use the 20mm cannons on the drones? "100s of rounds"??? You need thousands of rounds, not just 1 or 2k, but 20-30k. Those 20mm cannons fire 120 rounds a second. If you wanna get all the enemy, it's just easier to release that hellfire.
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The hellfire ATGM is a precision guided weapon system. A single missle is deployed against singl target. It is used as a strike weapon against individual targets.

The Spectre gunship is an area weapon similar to artillery, although much more accurate and isn't designed for use against single small targets. It would cause considerable collateral damage vs the hellfire.
 
I don't personally like the idea of mines that deactivate in the presence of friendly forces. Even if only 1 in 1000 of them is defective that's still a lot of casualties.
 
This is to clarify a few things about AC-130 gunships (Spectre) and weaponry. I very much doubt that a drone of the size under discussion could carry the weight of a 20mm cannon plus the ammunition and targeting systems needed. I also doubt the drone could tolerate the recoil forces of any of the AC-130 weapons except perhaps the 7.62mm minigun.
The AC-130 is not an area weapon and is capable of delivering ordinance with extreme precision from a few feet (10-20) down to the size of a single indivdual in some cases. The 20mm cannons used have a rate of fire of about 2500 rounds per minute (about 40 per second). The 40mm use a 5 round clip, and the 105mm is single loaded. All the guns require some operator intervention to load ammo and clear malfunctions.

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[ November 16, 2004, 10:23 AM: Message edited by: Sundagger ]
 
In a word, WEIGHT! As a secondary concept: LAUNCH & LEAVE. 3. On board targeting and control systems (see a word!)

Two old experiences of my life in a "bygone era"

1. I used to "own" 105 or so , 20mm M61 Vulcan systems.

2. I was on a base, where I used to over see the early r&d and testing phases of the so called remotely piloted drones.
 
I am thinking now of that incident where an unarmed CIA drone had OBL under surveilance at the farm in Afganistan. They did not call in an airstrike because the Prince of Jordan's airplane was parked there. OBL was plain to see as a tall white-clad figure. A single-shot 50 cal. would have sufficed. It would not take a lot of firepower to nutralize Iraqi street bandits from above. Who could return fire when under robot precision fire? Seems do-able.
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Wait I saw this in some movie.....

Terminator hahahah that is it.

Call me reactionary but I am very old school.

UAV, RPVs, etc as long as the human command link with his/her hand on the trigger button is there then I do not care.

The moment IBM, Cyberdyne, whoever outfits these robots with Artificial Intelligence then I begin to worry *lol*

Same goes for rumours of pilotless commercial aircraft...deleting the human is too problematic for me.

As far as Operation Mushroom Cloud for the NK as discussed above?

Neutron bombs would be the most rapid route to suppress them damaging Seoul and still keep it clean so to say.
 
In the press today it mentions NK have enough nukes for themselves and some for others of like mind. Lob nukes at them now and theirs will come right back. It's no longer a feasible option I'm afraid.
 
Doug sorry your wrong - Feb 12th 2003 CIA Director George Tenet while testifying at a Senate hearing was asked whether NK had a ballistic missile capable of reaching the U.S West Coast. Before answering Tenet quickly consulted with aides sitting behind him. "I think the declassified answer, is yes, they can do that," Tenet said. Missile called Taepo Dong 2. The video of the senate hearing is on the web for those interested.
 
Sprintman,

Wow, sorrrrrrrrrry! I don't think two response(one you just deleted) was necessary to inform me of that meeting. Maybe now I should just get the news from you?

They state that the missile can "maybe" hit the west coast.
 
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Before answering Tenet quickly consulted with aides sitting behind him. "I think the declassified answer, is yes, they can do that," Tenet said. Missile called Taepo Dong 2.
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Interesting phraseology on his answer.

What's the classified answer? "No, they can't reach the US."?
 
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