US Postal Service suspending pension contributions

It’s been pointed out five day a week delivery removes the need for a second mail carrier required to deliver mail six days a week.
As @SC Maintenance also mentioned

The savings eliminating that extra person is massive. We’re not only talking about weekly salary, we’re talking about benefits, such as health and retirement. We are also talking about the massive reduction in overtime.
Contrary to another post from you, I don’t think you thought about the amount of overtime carriers work on certain routes when a replacement can’t be found for their day off.

The volume of mail in a postal carriers workday is much less than it used to be yet that carrier still has to bring that mail six days a week to each address.

The volume of mail delivered by the typical mail carrier today is 46% less than 30 years ago.
Yet that mail carrier still has to go to each and every address six days a week
https://www.uspsoig.gov/reports/white-papers/analysis-historical-mail-volume-trends

It is completely insane to continue six days a week delivery and it should’ve been cut out a long time ago
Even 5 days per week is too much. I would be OK with 2X per week.
 
Even 5 days per week is too much. I would be OK with 2X per week.
I agree maybe three though🤔
The only point here is even though it’s supposed to run as an independent, their hands are always tied by Washington. Gosh, I’m getting so old but I know it was so long ago that they wanted to go to a five day work week but the uproar in Washington and …. Well, let’s just say it runs at a deficit like everything else.🙃
 
Well I did say anything important :ROFLMAO:

Banks use electronic communications all the time. They just tell you not to react to incoming email and phone calls or click on links. Only call the official number for example.

Sold a House in 2013 out of town - used DocuSign - neither sent or received anything via USPS.

I just did my taxes electronically - paid fed, get and refund from the state - all electronically - no mail.

There may still be need for some paper to move around but still not the federal governments charter. Jury duty might be as good an example as has been gotten around here, however I am sure the county could get a spectacular discounted rate from UPS. I work for a not very large company and we get very good rates from UPS.
I just renewed my passport and the only way to receive it was through the postal service which is how it arrived.
 
So what other option could I have used to get my passport?
I didn't say you had an option. The department of state has options. UPS, Fedex. etc.

Passport is a unique exception. Jury duty was another someone mentioned. We can't keep managing to exception. For other transactions very few physical documents are needed. DocuSign or some updated version of a blockchain for mass use.

The government needs to get out of the 1800's.
 
I just renewed my passport and the only way to receive it was through the postal service which is how it arrived.
Agree, it's silly to talk about doing away with mail deliveries. Actually crazy. However we do not need 6 day delivery. We need the number of days the system can break even with. 5 would be a good starting point. 6 is insane

Here is a good read. Honestly, I dont even know why the debate? Cut out a day already.
https://federalnewsnetwork.com/agen...t-of-cash-postmaster-general-tells-lawmakers/
 
I didn't say you had an option. The department of state has options. UPS, Fedex. etc.

Passport is a unique exception. Jury duty was another someone mentioned. We can't keep managing to exception. For other transactions very few physical documents are needed. DocuSign or some updated version of a blockchain for mass use.

The government needs to get out of the 1800's.
Because the postal service is a Government entity, it's highly doubtful that the Department of State is going to use anyone else other than the postal service to deliver passports other than a courier service in some instances.
 
I'd note that there are laws that govern the USPS that don't apply to private carriers regarding privacy and data collection.
 
Because the postal service is a Government entity, it's highly doubtful that the Department of State is going to use anyone else other than the postal service to deliver passports other than a courier service in some instances.
USPS throws my passport in my unlocked mailbox. How is that for secure.

UPS will deliver with signature required.

Just saying. Just because the department of state does it one way doesn't make it the best way.
 
USPS throws my passport in my unlocked mailbox. How is that for secure.

UPS will deliver with signature required.

Just saying. Just because the department of state does it one way doesn't make it the best way.
I’m on my 3rd passport - I just hand delivered to a consulate and go back to get it/visa on Thursday …
I cringe at putting them in the mail - but when I have needed to send any to Washington DC - my agent will only use UPS …
 
USPS throws my passport in my unlocked mailbox. How is that for secure.

UPS will deliver with signature required.

Just saying. Just because the department of state does it one way doesn't make it the best way.
I'm not saying it's the best way and I'm not a great fan of the USPS for the way they deliver packages but they still serve a purpose. I've had crappy service from all of the companies that deliver products so it's a crap shoot whoever you use.
 
I didn't say you had an option. The department of state has options. UPS, Fedex. etc.

Passport is a unique exception. Jury duty was another someone mentioned. We can't keep managing to exception. For other transactions very few physical documents are needed. DocuSign or some updated version of a blockchain for mass use.

The government needs to get out of the 1800's.
I know you have made a case for eliminating the post office, but they do serve some purpose. And the option of sending something through the mail for a competitive price is not nothing. If you do choose to mail a check, or other correspondence, holiday cards, etc, the post office is the best deal for sure. Let them run it as a business, and make congress allow them to do what they need to do, cut delivery days, modify the pension plan, etc.
 
I know you have made a case for eliminating the post office, but they do serve some purpose. And the option of sending something through the mail for a competitive price is not nothing. If you do choose to mail a check, or other correspondence, holiday cards, etc, the post office is the best deal for sure. Let them run it as a business, and make congress allow them to do what they need to do, cut delivery days, modify the pension plan, etc.
You have no idea how much it cost you because you have not paid your share of the $120 billion (and growing) unfunded pension liability yet.

It’s like saying the groceries were free because you haven’t paid the visa bill yet.

Congress by law must provide oversight to all agencies. If there incompetent then it should be privatized.

We have $39 trillion debt because no one is willing to cut anything ever. Oh well inflation is very good for my stock portfolio.
 
You have no idea how much it cost you because you have not paid your share of the $120 billion (and growing) unfunded pension liability yet.

It’s like saying the groceries were free because you haven’t paid the visa bill yet.

Congress by law must provide oversight to all agencies. If there incompetent then it should be privatized.

We have $39 trillion debt because no one is willing to cut anything ever. Oh well inflation is very good for my stock portfolio.
PERFECTLY SAID
 
You have no idea how much it cost you because you have not paid your share of the $120 billion (and growing) unfunded pension liability yet.

It’s like saying the groceries were free because you haven’t paid the visa bill yet.

Congress by law must provide oversight to all agencies. If there incompetent then it should be privatized.

We have $39 trillion debt because no one is willing to cut anything ever. Oh well inflation is very good for my stock portfolio.
I thought the post office had to fund the pension plan prior to this very recent change. That was one of the things that was put forward as an issue with the congressional oversight.
I get that the government needs to cut the budget, the debt is past ridiculous. Make the post office pay for itself ( I thought it already did) including any pension obligations.

Off topic comment- the problem with the US government is that all elected officials are more concerned with reelection than what’s best for the country. Congress was supposed to be a place where people would represent the views and best interest of their constituents, and then go back to their regular jobs in their state. Now we have career politicians. So they want to give programs to their constituents and never raise taxes. They also are indebted to political contributors so they can run their expensive reelection campaigns.
If a person was not concerned with reelection, they would cut programs and raise taxes. The idea that we can run this country without doing BOTH of those things is insane. Whew, I feel better now.
 
I thought the post office had to fund the pension plan prior to this very recent change. That was one of the things that was put forward as an issue with the congressional oversight.
Well you know - best laid plans.

I have seen numbers anywhere from 100 to 150 Billion published - but most seem to think around $120 Billion. And now they cannot afford to fund the pension at all and keep the post office running.

And I don't like the fact that the official USPS announcement bashed congress directly. True or not if I bad mouthed my boss in public I would get fired - so the fact that they can do so pretty much sums up management at the post office for me. Wildly unprofessional.
 
Well you know - best laid plans.

I have seen numbers anywhere from 100 to 150 Billion published - but most seem to think around $120 Billion. And now they cannot afford to fund the pension at all and keep the post office running.

And I don't like the fact that the official USPS announcement bashed congress directly. True or not if I bad mouthed my boss in public I would get fired - so the fact that they can do so pretty much sums up management at the post office for me. Wildly unprofessional.
As a union member, you would have the protected right to openly express concerns regarding your manager.

Also, do you like the postal service?

Ok I’m going to unwatch this now, carry on.

🤣🤣🤣
 
As a union member, you would have the protected right to openly express concerns regarding your manager.
Wildly unprofessional for the management of a government agency to bash congress for doing their job, in a written communication for which there is no counter response. I am sure they have plenty of time to bash them in congressional hearings and other meetings.

If I hated my manager I would simply move along, and in the past I have. When you have skills you have this option. 🤷‍♂️

Ok I’m going to unwatch this now, carry on.
I believe you have said this before.
 
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