Twist wires or not for wire nuts?

[stchman]

I have read lots of debate on this. It does appear that some wire nut manufacturers recommend that you do not twist the wire as the wire nuts will twist the wires for you.

 

[AutoMechanic]

I personally twist them before putting them in the wire nut. That’s how I learned but I would like to hear what everyone else does as I don’t have a lot of experience with household electrical.

 

[Timmastertech]

I was taught that you twist solid core wire together first but not stranded wire

 

[RyanY]

I was taught like this

 

[ollie]

Who is using wire nuts anymore? Nothing but Wago splicers for me. I don't know of any home builders using wire nuts for modern home manufacturing. Of course in the poor third world countries and cheap home builds you might still see it.

 

[EA82]

I was told "it's a cap not a tool".

 

[Creekside]

We still use lots of wire nuts in the industrial setting I work in. We mostly work with stranded wire though and I twist it enough get the nut on without it coming apart. We use Wagos, wire nuts, NSI lugs, etc. I have 2 400hp electric motors that use lugs to tie the wiring together.

 

[Hall]

Twist the wires
Don't twist the wires

Either are acceptable, at least according to the folks who make wire nuts.

 

[Hall]

Who is using wire nuts anymore? Nothing but Wago splicers for me.

I know what those are and they look slick but based on what's stocked at Lowes, Home Depot, etc, regular wire-nuts still seem to be much more popular (here).

 

[atikovi]

I can't think of any place in a car where wire nuts are acceptable.

 

[SwampSurvivor]

Vehicles have to deal with a lot more vibration and heat cycling than a house.

 

[tom slick]

Instruction sheet says twisting not required but okay

 

[sparky123]

Solid wire, not twisted together w/lineman's pliers. Just wire side by side making sure the ends are lined up. Wire Nut will twist the wire enough. Never had one fail this way.

 

[FT92]

i do it both ways at times. but was taught not to twist them years ago

 

[Lubener]

I can't think of any place in a car where wire nuts are acceptable.

I always used a crimp style Buchanon for automotive use.

 

[ollie]

I know what those are and they look slick but based on what's stocked at Lowes, Home Depot, etc, regular wire-nuts still seem to be much more popular (here).

https://www.homedepot.com/p/2-Wire-Lever-Nut-10-Pack-60343606/318073007

 

[Hall]

https://www.homedepot.com/p/2-Wire-Lever-Nut-10-Pack-60343606/318073007

Just because the list it doesn't mean anything. I said regular wire-nuts appear to be more popular. Plus, Home Depot says

This item is unavailable at Miamisburg

and

This item is not available in any stores within 100 miles of 45449

 

[RooflessVW]

Who is using wire nuts anymore? Nothing but Wago splicers for me. I don't know of any home builders using wire nuts for modern home manufacturing. Of course in the poor third world countries and cheap home builds you might still see it.

All of my fixtures are wire nuts.

Don't see a reason to use anything else.

 

[ollie]

Just because the list it doesn't mean anything. I said regular wire-nuts appear to be more popular. Plus, Home Depot says

This item is unavailable at Miamisburg

and

This item is not available in any stores within 100 miles of 45449

The Home Depot's carry a limited supply. I do not go by the "availability" listed. If it's on the website then they almost always have them in stock or can get them in a day or two. Home Depot is also considered the Walmart of building supplies so a lot of "in stock" construction stuff is subpar. I was using Home Depot as an example. I can go down the street right now and pick up Wago connectors all day long at my local electrical supply center. Even Ace Hardware carries them.

I'm giving options to those who want a quick and compact way to connect wires. The time saving by using Wago connections is immense. For a simple junction box you cut your time in half. When building a track of homes that is a lot of labor saved. During the building boom in the 90's was when I really noticed a lot of changes in the way homes were built. Wiring procedures being one of many.

 

[Silver]

I twist. I can see and feel whether the wires are twisting together ideally whereas I can't with the wire nut. That just seems lazy.