TPMS sensor info/recommendation request

[alexolog]

Please recommend TPMS sensors that are:
- Cloneable
- Good value
- Will work on a 2014 Odyssey (315MHz I believe)
- Available in Canada

Thank you!

 

[Escape08]

Google and any aftermarket TPMS sensors available for your vehicle would work. If you want to pay extra, go for Honda OEM

 

[FowVay]

If you want a cloneable sensor then you need a universal sensor and a tool that you can write your own data with. I don't know all of the sensors and equipment that you can do this with but I do know that Autel products are cheap and of good quality.

One member here posted that there was a Autel TS508wf for sale for $75 that would be a great price if you were interested. Maybe you can search for that posting and get information from them.

 

[shortyb]

Look at Schraders. Quick check on their website shows they make the OEM, as well as 4 others. 2 are programmable for 314.9Hz/315.0Hz/433Hz and one seems to be cloneable. You can get these at Walmart (online) or Amazon so availability in Canada should be good. I second the purchase of an Autel 508 if you're doing TPMS.

 

[qjohn]

When I cloned the sensors for our '14 Odyssey, I used Autel MX-sensors and programmed them with the discontinued Autel MaxiTPMS Pad. That was the cheapest way I could find at the time.

That tool works with a Windows PC and was able to read the existing ones through the wheel and program the same serial numbers to the sensors for my snow tires.

 

[alexolog]

Thanks for the replies!

Some comments (apologies for being a newb):

1. I don't need the programmer since my mechanic will program them for me.

2. Should I care whether the sensors are "snap in" or "clamp in?
Which ones will allow me to change tires without getting new sensors?
If I need to replace the valve stems when changing tires, do I need to get stems specifically for the sensors or are the stems generic?

3. I see multiple options on amazon.ca, ranging from CA$50 for a set of 4 to >CA$100 for a single one. The reviews are scary
I posted here asking for recommendations.

 

[shortyb]

Snap-in sensors are generally a regular rubber valve stem with a sensor attached that is pull through the wheel and into place. It seals just like a plain ole rubber valve stem. A clamp-in one is usually a metal "stem" that has a collar that threads onto it. The stem, with sensor attached, is inserted from inside the wheel and then the collar is threaded onto it. There is a gasket on the inner stem side and a plastic or soft aluminum ring on the bottom of the collar that form the seal when all is tightened down. You can mount/dismount tires without disturbing the sensors, nor would they need to be replaced when you do so. As for #3, I suggested the Schrader ones .

 

[alexolog]

Thanks shortyb!

Just to make sure I understand correctly: when changing tires, snap-in sensor will require changing the (dirt cheap) valve stems, and clamp-in will require no change?

Schrader also have bad reviews... Oh well.
Also, how are the Autel ones compared to Schrader?

 

[FowVay]

2. Should I care whether the sensors are "snap in" or "clamp in?
Which ones will allow me to change tires without getting new sensors?
If I need to replace the valve stems when changing tires, do I need to get stems specifically for the sensors or are the stems generic?

If you live in a rust belt region where corrosive chemicals are spread on the roadways seasonally then I would opt for the rubber "snap-in" sensors. They simply don't corrode like the aluminum screw-in sensors do.

As for needing sensors when changing tires - you only need sensors when you need sensors. Tire shops will try to sell you a "TPMS kit" each time the tire is removed which is simply the metal nut, washer, and cap for the sensor. I don't know what they do with rubber stemmed sensors but you should have the option to decline this unless the stems are simply old and deteriorated. In the old days you replaced valve stems because they cost $0.15 and it was a simple upsell. Now the stems cost $10, are made from EPDM rubber that simply doesn't deteriorate, and it has become a scam like most service industry upsells.

So, my suggestion is to use rubber stemmed sensors if you live where the cars have holes in their sheet metal. I live in the south so I use whatever the manufacturer installed from the factory.

 

[18LateModelFan]

I use the Autel MX sensors, they are going on sale at Princess Auto Dec 13-25 for $40m, reg $60. These can / will clone to your OEM sensors. They are the Rubber Stem ones. Be sure whatever you buy are compatible with your mechanics tool
I have experience with the Honda metal stem sensors corroding at the rim and leaking, so be sure to clean up your rim good at the stem and put a bit of grease of silicone grease around the stem hole to slow the rate of corrosion.

 

[joekingcorvette]

I just purchased 4 genuine OEM Honda sensors yesterday for my 2012 Honda Civic. I had the TPMS light come on the dash and my tires were getting worn out. I have an appointment this morning and will have the sensors installed and 4 brand new tires. I figure they are 12 years old and I might as well do everything at the same time. They cost a lot more than the cheap ones but I trust they are better quality.

 

[joekingcorvette]

Discount tire couldn't get my new OEM sensors to work. They said their sensor reader wouldn't work on my car so now I have to go to the Honda dealership. Not sure if I like DT anymore.

 

[18LateModelFan]

I recall Honda OEM sensors need to be Initialized to the vehicle and in years past this had to be done by the Dealer, once done you can go back and forth between two different sets of sensors (ie: Winter/Summer)

 

[ccs368]

I purchased an Autel TS508WF which came with 8 metal body stem MX-sensor-1 sensors. They were the adjustable angle version which means the sensor body can pivot slightly then tightened to accommodate steel and aluminum wheels that have different contours I suppose. I received early Nov for slightly less than $300USD delivered. As previous posters pointed out, Autel sensors need Autel scan tools to program their own blank sensors. If your shop doesn’t have the Autel scan tools to program, this may be an issue. The only way to use another mfg scan tool is if the Autel sensor already has been programmed with a unique ID flashed in. I have not seen preprogrammed Autel sensors for sale new but just pointing out if you bought used wheels and know Autel is installed for example. Then you can relearn the four sensors into the vehicles ECU module so it knows what to look for. This goes the same for the Autel TS508WF tool where if you replaced one bad sensor(s) with a non-Autel sensor that ALREADY has an ID flashed in, you can relearn position and match all four or maybe five with applicable spare tire application to the ECU. What Autel can’t do is program or create/write IDs to non-Autel blank TPMs sensors. That goes the same for non Autel scan tools can’t program or create/write IDs to blank Autel MX sensors or at least I am not aware of this.

I had an issue which I believe is about to get resolved with some support from customer service but overall, I don’t regret this investment only because I have three vehicles to take care of and the cost/vehicle goes way down upon usage. Secondly, I have access to a tire machine and balancer so it took me like 45min/wheel from jacking up to jacking down. This may be a game changer for DIY that wants to go this route because it’ll be a big pain to do this. My OEM TRW TPMs sensor was almost exactly 1/4 oz heavier than the Autel MX sensor so I didn’t even bother to rebalance as I don’t feel any highway vibrations so don’t care.

 

[Sequoiasoon]

Just as a question why do they need to be cloneable? Check the Odyssey or maybe other Honda forums on how many the ECU holds.

Are these for spare winter rims? Replacing what is there?

My only vehicle I have issue with and would have been nice to have the cloneable ones is in my daughters '08 CRV. That ECU only holds 4 ID's so summer winter swaps need to be read and uploaded each time (unless ID's cloned originally). It was only like 2 years on the CRV for that and then they changed it.

My '19 Pilot and son's '10 Forte don't have any issues. I have spare winter rims for all of them and the ECU reads the ID's no rescan, reposition needed. Pilot even has a sensor in spare that I installed and that works also when mounted on any corner but doesn't read at spare position.

I have a mix on the wheels of the rubber snap in and metal screw in ones. Screw in ones developed some leaks but shop broke bead and put new seals on. They warned that they might not be able to unscrew from corrosion and would need replacement but I got lucky. The rubber ones haven't leaked or failed yet but are newer.

I was the guy that picked up the Autel 508 for $75 locally. The seller had another one and sensors, both versions if interested if he still has them. The local shop was $20 each spring/fall but was $30 last time so the Autel should help me for the 2x season upload on her CRV.