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lol you shouldn’t be getting anywhere but the pan.If you're refilling what came out, don't forget to account for clingage losses at the drain pan and the bottles themselves.
lol you shouldn’t be getting anywhere but the pan.If you're refilling what came out, don't forget to account for clingage losses at the drain pan and the bottles themselves.
You don't need "data" on such a basic common sense point. Having fresh fluid is good for any mechanical piece of equipment, period.I've been asking for data that shows that changing the Toyota lifetime ATF is beneficial for years. That it makes the transmissions last longer. So far, no data. Just opinions.
No need to change the pan gasket on any f series truck, they are reusable.Every year I do a partial fluid change on my F150.
Doing about 15,000-20,000 kms a year, once per summer I drop the pan, and let it drip for an hour or two. Every 2 years I change the filter and pan gasket.
As I'm changing only a part of it, most likely some oil in there is several years old.
No need to change the pan gasket on any f series truck, they are reusable.
Short aside here. Some guys at work would change their oil in the shop. I would pull out the six bottles from the trash and give them an overnight drain. I could easily get another $1 worth of oil from them.If you're refilling what came out, don't forget to account for clingage losses at the drain pan and the bottles themselves.
I changed my GX460's ATF fluid and filter out recently (60k miles) using Toyota WS and it also made a noticeable difference, the biggest being downshifting on grades- much smoother now. I still find it can have the occasional hard engagement at light throttle but I guess that's just how the transmission operates.Haha. Well, yeah. You transmission *will* die after the fluid gets burned up. Self-fulfilling prophecy.
Like saying the air in your lungs is lifetime air. Technically....it is if you don't keep breathing. It's just that your "lifetime" is over in the next 30-90 seconds.
I changed my GX460's ATF out at 111k due to sloppy, delayed shifting and occasional hard engagements even under light throttle (and fully up to temp). Factory WS came out *BLACK*. Just pitch black. Smelled awful.....very burnt. After fluid exchange (using ATF's pump to pull from a bucket), everything is infinitely better. Back to brand new levels of shift quality.
And, yes, the local Lexus dealers (the two largest dealers in the world, they say; I live near Lexus NA HQ) adamantly refused to change the fluid. 3rd Party shop full of Lexus Master Mechanics was happy to do it for a very nominal fee.
Yeah my 2022 Dealer Loaner GX460 still occasionally shifted firmly for seemingly no reason. Nearly always at light throttle. I suspect, like you, that it's just being a truck-ey transmission at that point.I changed my GX460's ATF fluid and filter out recently (60k miles) using Toyota WS and it also made a noticeable difference, the biggest being downshifting on grades- much smoother now. I still find it can have the occasional hard engagement at light throttle but I guess that's just how the transmission operates.
I have seen way too many 3.5L V6 powered Toyotas (mostly Avalon, closely followed by Camry/ES350, and a few Highlanders mixed in) chew up their transmissions with that lifetime WS fluid. Have also seen many V8 Tundras chew up theirs. It's great fluid, as those cars usually make it 100k-150k miles before a failure. (Did witness 1 V6 Camry chew up it's tranny at 60k miles, but most last longer.) But it's certainly not a "forever" fluid, and severely shortens transmission's lifetime if it is treated as "forever" fluid.A few Lexus dealerships by me won’t do transmission service they standing by the Lifetime claim . Is Toyota WS fluid the magic elixir we don’t know about ?? And should we trust the Manufacturers when they claiming lifetime fluids ?
Yup, light throttle going back and forth between 1st and 2nd at low speeds can sometimes catch it off guard- good to hear mine isn't abnormal.Yeah my 2022 Dealer Loaner GX460 still occasionally shifted firmly for seemingly no reason. Nearly always at light throttle. I suspect, like you, that it's just being a truck-ey transmission at that point.
My loaner had under 3k miles on it.
Every internet site is full of "opinions".In the aggregate of available information I came to the conclusion that Reddit is a good source of entertainment and of little value when it comes to oil information.
And most "opinions" on reddit are by people that would not know how to take the splash shield off their rav4Every internet site is full of "opinions".
Naw…..that’s a SKID PLATEAnd most "opinions" on reddit are by people that would not know how to take the splash shield off their rav4
I've been asking for data that shows that changing the Toyota lifetime ATF is beneficial for years. That it makes the transmissions last longer. So far, no data. Just opinions.
The transmission in my old RAV4 blew up at 399,900 miles. I changed out like 2 quarts of ATF in its life. People want to believe what the want to believe.