Tires with 90,000 mile tread wear warranty only lasting 40k to 50k miles (multiple brands).

gfh77665 said:
I too owned a 2006 Honda Odyssey. I would give up (in general) of trying to think any tire is a "80K" or "90K" tire. That's like saying an oil is a "20K" oil. Not realistic, won't happen. If you get 50K, feel good. Anything past that you win. Ignore the "90K" claims, Its marketing.
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Yes, I'm finding that out more and more now that we're driving the van's 20k a year. It's a hidden maintenance expense on the Odysseys that most people don't factor it, that they go through tires faster than most vehicles. Walmart has some really cheap tire brands, Chinese and Indonesian brands for about 1/3 to 1/2 the price of the top brand names. I know you can think they aren't safe, but I haven't heard of anyone having any safety issues with them in the reviews or the news. If they can make it to 40k miles, it might make sense to get the cheap brands.
 
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wwillson said:
The largest factor in tread wear is braking. I watch many drivers wait until the last second, then brake hard for stop lights and stop signs. Brakes can exert many times as much torque on tires as accelerating.
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Yes, my son drives that way. Being a passenger in his car during stop and go driving is like hard acceleration and then hard breaking in an infinite repetitive loop. Was making my blood pressure rise LOL. I try to hypermile when I drive, barely touching the accelerator or brake and coasting with my right foot flat on the floor most of the time conserving momentum. Besides saving gas, maybe it can extend the tread life of the tires too.
 
Trav said:
You are doing well. 2005 Odyssey Michelin PAX tires 19K and 0/32nds, no machine available to change the PAX so Honda exchanged them for $750 each for a new tire on reconditioned wheel exchange with the ones from the van. That was 2007 price.
These crooks even put "you cannot use normal tires and wheels as the suspension was specifically designed for PX" in the owners manual. I put aftermarket wheels and new normal tires with Honda Pilot TPMS sensors and it was fine. Part number for suspension were the same for PAX and non PAX vans.

A couple of years go by then Honda comes out with because of the PAX issues it is okay to use non PAX wheels and tires with Pilot TPMS.
I refuse to buy either of their crap janky products to this day.
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Regarding the run flat tires, it would be cheaper for the average driver to get the lower trim level with the regular tires, and then pay for AAA so that if they ever get a flat, they can use the AAA phone app and have them send a truck to change the regular tire for them.

That was smart to put on the aftermarket wheels and Honda Pilot TPMS sensors.
 
Bill7 said:
I've been buying name brand expensive tires with 80,000 to 90,000 mile treadwear warranties:

Michelin Defender 2 All Season P235/65R16 103H Passenger Tire (80,000 mile treadwear warranty),
and
Hankook Kinergy PT (H737) All Season 235/65R16 103T Passenger Tire (90,000 mile treadwear warranty),

for my 2006 Honda Odyssey EX-L and my two 2007 Honda Odyssey EX-L's.

Sadly, the tires drop below 2/32's in tread depth between 40,000 miles and 50,000 miles.
I do tire rotations every 5,000 miles, and I do periodic wheel alignments.
I keep all 4 tires at 35 psi as per the plackard near the driver's door.
My mechanic has checked the struts, no issues.

I know minivans are very heavy and could be expected to wear out the tires faster than a lighter vehicle,
but still, I am concerned about paying so much for a premium tire and having them last half their expected mileage.

My next set of tires are going to be very low priced lesser known brand tires (like Achilles which are made in Indonesia),
just to see if they can also go the same 40,000+ miles before the tread gets below 2/32nds.

Has anyone ever got more than 50,000 miles out of a tire for any minivan, and if so, what brand/model tires were you using?

Thanks
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Milestar is a good 2nd tier tire. But they have had "price creep" as well as other tires have. But I hear ya-tires are a major expense now. I don't have personal experience with these-
https://www.advantatire.com/

but I read positive things...again considering a cheaper tire.
 
Bill7 said:
Will take a look at the Yokohama's. What is the most miles you got out of a set of 4 on your Odyssey?
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It is a vehicle. Michelin will probably last the longest. Also, it will retain its initial performance the longest.
Tires are THE MOST important safety item on the vehicle. After 20k, braking distance at 60mph in wet conditions between brand-name tires and el cheapo tires might be more than 100ft.
You figured it out is worth it!

 
Overall design, specs and characteristics of the vehicle? Not just the weight but think of the height of a van and the leverage it imposes on everything below the CG and ultimately the tires

Operator? You can smoke a set of brakes in one day (like one of those high performance driving events). Or, they could last 379k miles (Like the rears on my '95 Tacoma)

Related to the above 2 points; I put only OEM Goodyears or top shelf Continentals on the PT cruiser the females in my household drove for a collective ~15 years... Lost count how many wheels and tires I replaced over the years...maybe 1/2 to 1/3 of the "Warranty" period at best.

What can you do? I chalked it up to cost of [family] living.
 
I have the same set up as you, Mr. Bill7. 06 Ody with Defender2’s. So far the Michelins are my favorite tires. And just like you have experienced, the tires never achieve the mileage rating published or suggested. Boy, i wish i could get 60K out of a set! Realistically, get about 30K (max). The RT43s i had previously (a couple sets), wore well, but at 4/32” the age of the tire was causing them to become hard, slick, and noisy. I believe the only benefit you will get with a no-name tire would be lower initial cost, However you’ll end up with making more visits to the tire retailer because the tire noise or lack of traction will drive you crazy once you get about 20K miles on them (or sooner). The van’s weight and rear suspension tending to negative camber really kills tires.
 
Bill7 said:
Regarding the run flat tires, it would be cheaper for the average driver to get the lower trim level with the regular tires, and then pay for AAA so that if they ever get a flat, they can use the AAA phone app and have them send a truck to change the regular tire for them.

That was smart to put on the aftermarket wheels and Honda Pilot TPMS sensors.
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Obviously you haven't traveled in the "Great West".......
 
Wow that's longer than they expect the transmission to last :sneaky:

If snow and cold weather performance is important, and you don't have separate tires for winter, consider all-weather tires. The Cooper Enduramax might be a good choice, and it is supposed to more durable, too.

The only cheap all-weather tire in that size is also a commercial van tire:
Prinx Hifleet HL1

Perhaps commercial van tires might be good for you (the tire size will have a C after it, for example 235/65-15C), or maybe even EV-specific tires, as electric cars are heavier and have a lot of torque at zero rpm. The Prinx HL1 is a commercial van tire with the C in the size.

If you still desire a premium name brand, you have a few options:
Toyo Celsius Cargo
Michelin Agilis CrossClimate
Conti VanContact AS Ultra

(the regular passenger car Toyo Celsius II is also available in your size)
 
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