Here is another recent article about TPMS rules and regs:
http://www.tirereview.com/Article/119473/tpms_nhtsa_and_you.aspx
http://www.tirereview.com/Article/119473/tpms_nhtsa_and_you.aspx
Tirerack won't mount snows to rims?
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I'm so glad big brother can force us to run sensors in our tires to monitor the pressure- after all, it is FAR too difficult to check the pressure once a month and pay attention for unusual driving characteristics.
Plus, on a lot of cars not only can you not use the TPMS to check the actual PSI but the low pressure limit is so low that its pretty much useless. On my old '12 Mustang the 255/45r19 were down to 22psi and the light hadn't come on. Haven't tested it on my truck but the door sticker says 38psi for the stock size and I'm running 35psi on my new tires without a light.
Plus, on a lot of cars not only can you not use the TPMS to check the actual PSI but the low pressure limit is so low that its pretty much useless. On my old '12 Mustang the 255/45r19 were down to 22psi and the light hadn't come on. Haven't tested it on my truck but the door sticker says 38psi for the stock size and I'm running 35psi on my new tires without a light.
Originally Posted By: buck91
I'm so glad big brother can force us to run sensors in our tires to monitor the pressure- after all, it is FAR too difficult to check the pressure once a month and pay attention for unusual driving characteristics.
Plus, on a lot of cars not only can you not use the TPMS to check the actual PSI but the low pressure limit is so low that its pretty much useless. On my old '12 Mustang the 255/45r19 were down to 22psi and the light hadn't come on. Haven't tested it on my truck but the door sticker says 38psi for the stock size and I'm running 35psi on my new tires without a light.
That's about how my Hyundais are. Somewhere around 25 lbs before the come on.
I'm so glad big brother can force us to run sensors in our tires to monitor the pressure- after all, it is FAR too difficult to check the pressure once a month and pay attention for unusual driving characteristics.
Plus, on a lot of cars not only can you not use the TPMS to check the actual PSI but the low pressure limit is so low that its pretty much useless. On my old '12 Mustang the 255/45r19 were down to 22psi and the light hadn't come on. Haven't tested it on my truck but the door sticker says 38psi for the stock size and I'm running 35psi on my new tires without a light.
That's about how my Hyundais are. Somewhere around 25 lbs before the come on.
Originally Posted By: SHOZ
You don't even need to tell them what car you have. Been doing this for years with different than OEM tires in a variety of cars.
+1
I also bring my new, different than stock size tires to small mom and pop tire shops to mount too.
You don't even need to tell them what car you have. Been doing this for years with different than OEM tires in a variety of cars.
+1
I also bring my new, different than stock size tires to small mom and pop tire shops to mount too.
I'll just throw out one more article on this subject, since the Tire Review piece was really more about corrosion issues than winter tire changeovers.
http://tires.about.com/b/2013/01/14/tpms-and-winter-tires.htm
http://tires.about.com/b/2013/01/14/tpms-and-winter-tires.htm
Originally Posted By: supton
Could you swap the TPMS sensors into the winter rims, and live with the light during the summer months, when you could care less about traction control being a nuisance?
Good thought! But like my buddy RAND say,s I probably have but one more year in the car so ... .I'll be sure to post the VIN here when I sell/trade it used, so no one might buy it unsuspecting of its severe use
Actully it only evidencing a stiky pressure plat most like ly due to a somwht cantycaned transmission input shaft. And of course the somewhat rough ruuning due to something the Liqui-Moly MoS2 additive did.
Could you swap the TPMS sensors into the winter rims, and live with the light during the summer months, when you could care less about traction control being a nuisance?
Good thought! But like my buddy RAND say,s I probably have but one more year in the car so ... .I'll be sure to post the VIN here when I sell/trade it used, so no one might buy it unsuspecting of its severe use
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Originally Posted By: supton
Started my shopping. Both Toyota's need winter tires; want rims also. Tundra has some stylish steelies so I will Ebay those and take to local tire shop; but Camry has "traditional" rims so perhaps buying a set from Tirerack is cheaper.
Nope, says they can't install tires onto the rims, as my car requires TPMS...
Now, I'd rather buy tires locally, that way I can just go back and have rebalanced or deal with whatever issue may arise. But I have a feeling I'm going to get forced into buying a set of sensors for both vehicles so that these shops can be "legal" in doing a tire rotation, or alignment, or just touching the darn vehicle. NH does not require TPMS for inspection but the dealer told me flat out that they won't pass me on account of it; not sure what the tire shop will tell me when I ask today.
Stupid regulations!
As far as I know of, neither the Camry nor Tundra will throw a hissy fit with traction control if the TPMS light is on. Does anyone know for certain? I don't recall coming across this issue, and it is important as I'll be dealing with the typical snowy weather.
I ordered snow tires on steel rims, without the sensors (they offered them for my Accord) from TireRack. They shipped them no problem, painless experience.
Started my shopping. Both Toyota's need winter tires; want rims also. Tundra has some stylish steelies so I will Ebay those and take to local tire shop; but Camry has "traditional" rims so perhaps buying a set from Tirerack is cheaper.
Nope, says they can't install tires onto the rims, as my car requires TPMS...
Now, I'd rather buy tires locally, that way I can just go back and have rebalanced or deal with whatever issue may arise. But I have a feeling I'm going to get forced into buying a set of sensors for both vehicles so that these shops can be "legal" in doing a tire rotation, or alignment, or just touching the darn vehicle. NH does not require TPMS for inspection but the dealer told me flat out that they won't pass me on account of it; not sure what the tire shop will tell me when I ask today.
Stupid regulations!
As far as I know of, neither the Camry nor Tundra will throw a hissy fit with traction control if the TPMS light is on. Does anyone know for certain? I don't recall coming across this issue, and it is important as I'll be dealing with the typical snowy weather.
I ordered snow tires on steel rims, without the sensors (they offered them for my Accord) from TireRack. They shipped them no problem, painless experience.
Originally Posted By: supton
I could, but what crud will I run into at a shop? Both vehicles need an alignment right now; if I take one in and the light is on because the sensors are missing... Can they touch it? Can they do a tire rotation? What if I need brakes and I go to a place that sells tires?
"Yeah, I know the light is on; it's a bad sensor and the dealer had to order it. It won't be in until Tuesday."
I could, but what crud will I run into at a shop? Both vehicles need an alignment right now; if I take one in and the light is on because the sensors are missing... Can they touch it? Can they do a tire rotation? What if I need brakes and I go to a place that sells tires?
"Yeah, I know the light is on; it's a bad sensor and the dealer had to order it. It won't be in until Tuesday."
Originally Posted By: supton
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
My local Honda dealer just gave me an inspection sticker with snows on steelies and the TPMS light on. I read the NH inspection requirements on the state website and there was nothing mentioned for TPMS.
I asked Grappone specifically about it, and they said they would not sticker if the light was on. I'm sure I could argue with them, but it's not quite in my nature to do so.
The Tundra will squeak by on this, assuming I don't need work done during winter months; but if I buy snow tires through Grappone... Both my Toyota's have tires through Grappone (truck came with new ones, Camry recently got a new free set), so dealing with two tire shops is going to be annoying (going to one shop for snow tire rebalancing vs the dealer for all season rebalancing). If I try to prorate the tires for premature wear then it's in my best interest to have records of rotations, and... Or I just write off the tires they have currently, and deal with the tire shop instead.
Edit: it's a 30mile drive to deal with these places. I usually take time off from work to do so, first thing in the morning, as the tire shop (Vianor in Concord) or Grappone (in Bow) is on the way to work. The local inspection place (5 miles down the road, so very close) wants the car for the day, or for a few days to do work (say wheel bearing or exhaust, same diff, it's a day at least of downtime). Camry was getting free 5k service (that just ended), Tundra just hit 5k, and the Jetta I just did the rotations myself (and ate the premature tire life).
Per one of their service guys, Sullivan Tire will pass a car with the TPMS light on, as long as the tires themselves are OK.
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
My local Honda dealer just gave me an inspection sticker with snows on steelies and the TPMS light on. I read the NH inspection requirements on the state website and there was nothing mentioned for TPMS.
I asked Grappone specifically about it, and they said they would not sticker if the light was on. I'm sure I could argue with them, but it's not quite in my nature to do so.
The Tundra will squeak by on this, assuming I don't need work done during winter months; but if I buy snow tires through Grappone... Both my Toyota's have tires through Grappone (truck came with new ones, Camry recently got a new free set), so dealing with two tire shops is going to be annoying (going to one shop for snow tire rebalancing vs the dealer for all season rebalancing). If I try to prorate the tires for premature wear then it's in my best interest to have records of rotations, and... Or I just write off the tires they have currently, and deal with the tire shop instead.
Edit: it's a 30mile drive to deal with these places. I usually take time off from work to do so, first thing in the morning, as the tire shop (Vianor in Concord) or Grappone (in Bow) is on the way to work. The local inspection place (5 miles down the road, so very close) wants the car for the day, or for a few days to do work (say wheel bearing or exhaust, same diff, it's a day at least of downtime). Camry was getting free 5k service (that just ended), Tundra just hit 5k, and the Jetta I just did the rotations myself (and ate the premature tire life).
Per one of their service guys, Sullivan Tire will pass a car with the TPMS light on, as long as the tires themselves are OK.
Originally Posted By: buck91
I'm so glad big brother can force us to run sensors in our tires to monitor the pressure- after all, it is FAR too difficult to check the pressure once a month and pay attention for unusual driving characteristics.
Plus, on a lot of cars not only can you not use the TPMS to check the actual PSI but the low pressure limit is so low that its pretty much useless. On my old '12 Mustang the 255/45r19 were down to 22psi and the light hadn't come on. Haven't tested it on my truck but the door sticker says 38psi for the stock size and I'm running 35psi on my new tires without a light.
My Magnum (2007 RT, 225/60R18) wouldn't trip the light until ~22psi...at which point, the tire is visually and obviously low. (IIRC, correct pressure is 33.) Utterly useless!
I'm so glad big brother can force us to run sensors in our tires to monitor the pressure- after all, it is FAR too difficult to check the pressure once a month and pay attention for unusual driving characteristics.
Plus, on a lot of cars not only can you not use the TPMS to check the actual PSI but the low pressure limit is so low that its pretty much useless. On my old '12 Mustang the 255/45r19 were down to 22psi and the light hadn't come on. Haven't tested it on my truck but the door sticker says 38psi for the stock size and I'm running 35psi on my new tires without a light.
My Magnum (2007 RT, 225/60R18) wouldn't trip the light until ~22psi...at which point, the tire is visually and obviously low. (IIRC, correct pressure is 33.) Utterly useless!
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