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OVERKILL said:
If you are reserving your use of tattoos to Bubba and Billy-Sue who grew up with trauma-free childhoods, sure, but there's a whole spectrum of use beyond that, which I alluded to earlier, many of them traditional and cultural across a huge swath of ethnicities which you failed to account for with your apparently very narrow view on the subject.

Another use of tattoos (and body art in general) is by victims of sexual abuse. Yes, this is taking a dark turn, but I think it warrants being explained. Many victims of child abuse (often sexual, but not always) suffer from long-term dysphoria as a result of feeling like their bodies are no longer "theirs", because somebody else was able to take control of it and do things to it that they didn't want. Part of taking back that control, taking ownership, is through body art. It's cathartic, and each new addition is a step forward in the healing process and means something to them.

That girl at Starbucks with the full sleeve that goes right up her neck and behind her ear, sure, maybe she's just trying to be trendy. But maybe she was raped by her uncle from the time she was 8 through 14 and her parents didn't believe her for years. So perhaps that's her method of healing. You don't know, and so judging her solely on her appearance and thinking she's got Amateur Hour down at the house of needles going on because her trauma doesn't fit your definition of what art should look like is incredibly shallow.

Edit to add: I appreciate that I may be coming across like a bit of a **** on this. I think it's important to realize that people inherently project their normalcy onto others, and then judge based on how far those people deviate. So, if you grew up in a normal household that didn't study other cultures and you weren't making an effort to get to know the damaged weird kids at school, it's quite likely that you weren't exposed to anything tattoo-related beyond Joe the jock getting a Superman symbol on his shoulder or Bev getting Pam Anderson's barb wire because it was "cool". There's a whole world outside of that, and some of it is VERY dark, and some of it is deeply beautiful, connecting thousands of years of culture and tradition. And some of it is somebody trying to reassociate with that culture and tradition after it was taken from their family by colonization.
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I’ll agree with what you said sir. That is fact. Thank you for sharing your views and knowledge.
 
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My comment had nothing to do with motivation, just quality. I have nothing against those obtained due to legitimate and realistic reasons as you've mentioned. I am against all the millions of them obtained just to be trendy and just because someone else got one. And I am against the ones that look like 2nd grade refrigerator art. And that's sadly the vast majority.
 
LDB said:
My comment had nothing to do with motivation, just quality. I have nothing against those obtained due to legitimate and realistic reasons as you've mentioned. I am against all the millions of them obtained just to be trendy and just because someone else got one. And I am against the ones that look like 2nd grade refrigerator art. And that's sadly the vast majority.
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The problem is, how do you know if they were obtained to be trendy or not? How do you know if the one that looks like 2nd grade fridge art isn't somebody's lived trauma or cultural connection?

I was absolutely blown away when I started to talk to people with tattoos, to find out why they got them. I had no idea how many people used them to manifest ownership of their skin due to abuse or as an outlet for their trauma. I knew that it was a means to deal with it, so I wasn't one who was predisposed to judgement, but I didn't realize how common it was 😳 . And yeah, some of them certainly aren't what I'd consider well done by just looking at them, but some of those are ones people have done themselves for the above reasons.

Here's one of my wife's, I don't believe an explanation is necessary, it does a good job of that itself:
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Pablo said:
There are no bad tats. Just good tats and very very sad tats.

Just Google 'bad tattoos pics" AND YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT Overkill.

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Yeah, that's the Billy-Sue crap I was talking about, lol. But there's a whole spectrum beyond that, which I think I've done a pretty decent job explaining in this thread.

Specifically, I'm responding to these two statements by you two ;)

LBD said:
PS PSA You really need to be smart enough to never ever under any circumstances get a tattoo.
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Pablo said:
Now I just think people with tats are foolish but whatever. Do what you want.
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OVERKILL said:
Examples of Mi'kmaw traditional tattoos (east coast, this artist is in Newfoundland):
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Example of Nlaka'pamux traditional tattoos (west coast, this artist is from southern British Columbia):
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Colonialism almost extinguished the art, and it has taken a concerted effort by various indigenous artists to resurrect it.

A quote from the CBC article the above images are from:
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This guy was waiting to board in St John’s - rode upfront …

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Two moose engaged in a deadly fight froze together after falling — antlers locked — into a shallow Alaskan lake.


The perfect preservation of their bodies beneath nearly a foot of ice made for a startling discovery by Unalakleet local Brad Webster.

The town of Unalakleet is located on the coast of the Bering Sea in Alaska, boasting November temperature ranges of 5 – 20 degrees Fahrenheit. Fall is moose breeding season or ‘rut’ and during this time of year male moose fight over females.

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GON said:
Two moose engaged in a deadly fight froze together after falling — antlers locked — into a shallow Alaskan lake.


The perfect preservation of their bodies beneath nearly a foot of ice made for a startling discovery by Unalakleet local Brad Webster.

The town of Unalakleet is located on the coast of the Bering Sea in Alaska, boasting November temperature ranges of 5 – 20 degrees Fahrenheit. Fall is moose breeding season or ‘rut’ and during this time of year male moose fight over females.

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And now we know why the season is called FALL.
 
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Raymond, South Dakota — Main Street, circa 1916. Only 53 residents live in Raymond according to the 2020 Census, but at the time of this photo, there were closer to 300 citizens. A sprawling town with a gazebo at its end welcomed visitors from far and wide to the little Clark County farm town established in 1883.
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Sturgis, South Dakota — Oxen & wagon train, circa 1892. Long before the streets of Sturgis were filled with the thundering of motorcycles, the streets welcomed droves of oxen teams. Note the old facades in the background including a furniture store and a livery stable.

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