thoughts on waterless and no rinse washes?

[bowlofturtle]

http://www.chemicalguys.com/Chemical_Guys_CWS_888_16_Hose_Free_ECOwash_p/cws_888_16.htm

Check out their youtube videos.


http://www.amazon.com/32oz-Optimum-Rinse-Wash-Shine/dp/B000E9TS6O




These two seem to be a great solution for the lazy guy like myself.

Anyone use this? Pros and Cons?

A water hose for me isn't exactly always there for me. Touchless car wash is $5 for me. Coin-op is what i've been doing. Ive heard of many reviews on ONR that its good stuff. Nothing from chem guys's stuff but i like there idea of it being just spray and wipe VS ONR's 2 gallon of water that i need.

This whole winter i've been lazy and only washed my car once. Its pretty sad that i have all that salt and etc on it.

Turtlewax has their thing for really cheap as well.

 

[Mykl]

Optimum No-Rinse is probably the most awesome thing in ever for washing a car. Wash your car, year round, in the relative comfort of your garage (great when it's cold outside). I basically wash each panel individually and dry as I go. It takes less time, I use less water, and the result is just as good.

I've talked to professional detailers who love the stuff for no reason other than they frequently have to do work in places where they don't have access to a hose. All they need is to carry a few gallons of water with them and they're good to go.

 

[Rolla07]

I have used the turtle one and like it. I wouldnt use it on a new car..but if its slightly dirty I do use it on my car. If you are looking to get the salt off, your best bet is the coin op or 5$ touchless that way you can get the salt off the undercarriage. if i had a newer car, id prefer to hose it down first so im not rubbing the dirt into the paint resulting in swirls and scratches.

 

[CharBaby]

I have tried waterless washes and was very impressed. Though, I do have access to water and love to wash my vehicle the conventional way so, these aren't quite for me.

These products are though, for those folks who don't have access to conventional washing(appt. living) or, just don't enjoy the time & work involved in cleaning their vehicle.

I just don't know the effects of years of ONLY washing a vehicle this way. Lets say, 10 + years. How will the vehicle look as compeard to conventional washing? Plus, not being able to give your chassis that well needed under spray with a garden hose!

 

[strat81]

I'm an ONR user.

My driveway gets full sun and with a black car, I cannot wash and dry quickly enough to prevent water spots using traditional methods.

The solution is washing in the garage with ONR. No sun to bake the water, and I can do it when it's cold, hot, or whatever.

 

[SatinSilver]

Duragloss has an excellent rinseless wash that contains Aquawax which is their version of a spray sealant. Only $11 and available on autogeek, amazon, duragloss.com etc.

For a waterless go with some of the other suggestions. I like Ultima concentrate which can be used for both kinds of washes.

 

[Bgallagher]

Originally Posted By: Mykl
Optimum No-Rinse is probably the most awesome thing in ever for washing a car. Wash your car, year round, in the relative comfort of your garage (great when it's cold outside). I basically wash each panel individually and dry as I go. It takes less time, I use less water, and the result is just as good.

I've talked to professional detailers who love the stuff for no reason other than they frequently have to do work in places where they don't have access to a hose. All they need is to carry a few gallons of water with them and they're good to go.


+1

 

[Cadenza]

I live nearby a touchless car wash that I use often, and a few ounces of ONR with water in a small garden sprayer serves as a great pre-wash. It seems to make water wetter to help remove dirt.

 

[needsducktape]

You'll love it unless you have caked on mud.

For everything else its a faster way to work with the same results.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Originally Posted By: Mykl
Optimum No-Rinse is probably the most awesome thing in ever for washing a car. Wash your car, year round, in the relative comfort of your garage (great when it's cold outside). I basically wash each panel individually and dry as I go. It takes less time, I use less water, and the result is just as good.

I've talked to professional detailers who love the stuff for no reason other than they frequently have to do work in places where they don't have access to a hose. All they need is to carry a few gallons of water with them and they're good to go.


+1 on ONR but I would only use it on a car with light dirt/dust build up as it will still allow scratches.

I won't use it if the car is covered in road grim from driving in the rain.

 

[Mykl]

Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
+1 on ONR but I would only use it on a car with light dirt/dust build up as it will still allow scratches.

I won't use it if the car is covered in road grim from driving in the rain.


Maybe my GTI has exceptionally hard paint, but I use it for this and after four and a half years scratching is minimal to non-existent.

 

[gofast182]

I just can't get on board with this. Even after a proper 2 bucket wash, often times my chamois flush water will become cloudy, and on very rare occasions show some dirt (*and that's after rinsing*). This means that even a wash with best practices can't get ALL dirt off so I have a hard time thinking I can slide the dirt across my finish, remove it all, and then dry it in one operation and not introduce any scratching. It doesn't compute even though it's probably OK (this coming from a guy who likes to try new products).

 

[Clevy]

I saw one of these waterless washes on an episode of dragons den. The guys demo was pretty amazing and I was impressed.
Somehow the product encapsulates the dirt or somehow prevents it from smearing and scratching the finish.
Iirc he got a deal, I'll see if I can find the stuff.

 

[kkreit01]

ONR for winter washes in the garage. During warm months, nothing beats a hand, 2-bucket wash in the driveway.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Originally Posted By: Mykl
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
+1 on ONR but I would only use it on a car with light dirt/dust build up as it will still allow scratches.

I won't use it if the car is covered in road grim from driving in the rain.


Maybe my GTI has exceptionally hard paint, but I use it for this and after four and a half years scratching is minimal to non-existent.
must be that soft Texas clay.

 

[sciphi]

Originally Posted By: gofast182
I just can't get on board with this. Even after a proper 2 bucket wash, often times my chamois flush water will become cloudy, and on very rare occasions show some dirt (*and that's after rinsing*). This means that even a wash with best practices can't get ALL dirt off so I have a hard time thinking I can slide the dirt across my finish, remove it all, and then dry it in one operation and not introduce any scratching. It doesn't compute even though it's probably OK (this coming from a guy who likes to try new products).


Washing media has a lot to do with matters. Grout sponges work wonders for removing dirt without harming paint, even soft paint like on both our vehicles. Grout sponges along with Turtle Wax No-Rinse leave both our cars shiny and swirl-free.

If there is a lot of road grit/sand, I'll rinse that off with the hose, then go to town on the cars with the rinseless solution.

When I run out of cheap clearanced Turtle Wax, I'm ordering a gallon of ONR.

 

[PeterGreen]

Originally Posted By: Mykl
Optimum No-Rinse is probably the most awesome thing in ever for washing a car. Wash your car, year round, in the relative comfort of your garage (great when it's cold outside). I basically wash each panel individually and dry as I go. It takes less time, I use less water, and the result is just as good.

I've talked to professional detailers who love the stuff for no reason other than they frequently have to do work in places where they don't have access to a hose. All they need is to carry a few gallons of water with them and they're good to go.


Amen. I love the results. People compliment me unsolicited on how great my car looks.

 

[JHZR2]

I don't trust grit being lubricated sufficiently to prevent marring..

 

[FastEddie]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I don't trust grit being lubricated sufficiently to prevent marring..

It took me a LONG time try using a no rinse product for the same reason. It's definitely not for super dirty cars as far as i'm concerned. But no rinse washes are something I do regularly and haven't had any negative experiences with marring on my cars or my clients cars thus far. But I use Ultima Waterless Wash Plus+ Concentrate, I like it way more than Optimum no rinse.

 

[SatinSilver]

A few tips for no rinse washes:

1. Use very little pressure when washing and drying. Think of it as spreading the solution around. Use in straight lines.

2. Use plush MF towels.

3. Hose car off if it makes you feel better.

4. Some top detailers have said if they suddenly couldn't use rinseless washes anymore and had to go back to doing regular washing they would leave the business.