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How old and /or disconnected from common stuff I must be. I have no idea what World of Warcraft is.
This is definitely a WOW video- Teen Pushes Bear Off Backyard Wall While Defending Family Dogs
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That girl is beary beary brave.
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I keep a shovel near the back door in case of a snake or if a hawk wants to make a dive at a small dog - think I’d sooner use that to push than get too close to bear claws …
In the still shot (before one pushes the 'play' button) that bear sure appears to be a brown shade of black to me.
Black Bear: Claimed to "never bother you" by the New Jerseyites who live near them. They can be trained to sort recyclables and as Uber drivers.
Brown Bear: Have the nickname "Grizzly" for a reason....can tear your head off as easily as you picking the cherry off a sundae.
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Just saw the time stamp on the vids, 2 years ago.
That's an American black bear regardless of the color of its fur. The video notes it was in Bradbury, California, which is in Los Angeles County in the San Gabriel Valley. It's near the boundary of Angeles National Forest. That was traditional grizzly area, but they had been extirpated there long before the California grizzly went extinct. The population of the American black bears they have came from bears reintroduced in the 1930s thinking they would help with a balanced ecosystem. There are a lot of backyard bears in that area from Pasadena to Duarte.
The city of Duarte has recommendations for dealing with wildlife in general, including noisemakers or even golf balls to throw at them. Their municipal garbage/recycling/composting contractors provides bear resistant containers.
Make a Wildlife Scare Kit
Make a wildlife scare kit consisting of air horns, whistles, two small pans to bang together, baseballs and/or golf balls to throw and keep it at your front door in case of an emergency. Disposable cameras with flash are also known to scare off animals.
https://www.accessduarte.com/government/departments/city-manager-s-office/refuse-recycling/residents
Bear Resistant Waste Barrels
To comply with California Senate Bill 1383, a mandate passed to help reduce climate pollutants caused by surplus organic waste, residents are now required to separate and dispose of food scraps such as meat, fish, bones, cheese, fruits, vegetables, and other approved organic materials into their Burrtec green waste carts. As such, the green carts may omit food odors that tempt local wildlife to search your green cart for food. To mitigate this issue, Burrtec will provide bear resistant green waste barrels for purchase that are equipped with gravity locks to deter bears, raccoons, and other wildlife from opening lids and accessing waste carts.
My avatar photo is from a hike in 2007 in Kings Canyon National Park. We saw four bears - the first being a cub that went straight up a tree next the the trail, then I noticed mama bear and the two other siblings in the distance. While mama bear had a cinnamon brown color, they were clearly American black bears, where jet black is rare in California, although I've seen a jet black bear in the Sierra Nevada. American black bears tend to be cautious around humans and will typically run away, although they might start swatting if they feel cornered or directly threatened.
Honestly I doubt that the woman really had to do anything other than call for her dogs to come to her. The bear was about as scared as she was and was clearly already retreating. The dogs approached the bear and got close, which is when the bears might get defensive.
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Plenty of articles of black bears attacking women and children every year. Many of the attacks involve cubs and dogs.
I am not discounting the woman's bravery or threat she exposed herself to. I think I hear a man in the background of the video- if accurate he didn't step up to the plate.
A few of dozens of easy to find articles of black bear attacks below. Yes, black bear attacking humans are not common- but add her cubs and the dogs the equation, thinks could go south instantly.
A 74-year-old Connecticut woman suffered bites to her arms and legs Friday when she was attacked by a black bear while out walking her dog on a leash in a Hartford suburb, state environmental officials said.
This was the first bear-on-human attack this year in the state. There were two last year, including one in October in which a 10-year-old boy in Morris was mauled in a backyard.
https://apnews.com/article/bear-attack-connecticut-woman-943fa3d2ea9407f2593ff047a42b5e94
The woman was attacked when she let her dog outside the cabin shortly after midnight, according to a news release from the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources.
“She went into the yard to check on the dog and the bear swiped at her, striking her in several places,” and left the area after the incident, the release said.
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/n...ries-woman-outside-gull-lake-cabin-in-nisswa/
I am not discounting the woman's bravery or threat she exposed herself to. I think I hear a man in the background of the video- if accurate he didn't step up to the plate.
A few of dozens of easy to find articles of black bear attacks below. Yes, black bear attacking humans are not common- but add her cubs and the dogs the equation, thinks could go south instantly.
A 74-year-old Connecticut woman suffered bites to her arms and legs Friday when she was attacked by a black bear while out walking her dog on a leash in a Hartford suburb, state environmental officials said.
This was the first bear-on-human attack this year in the state. There were two last year, including one in October in which a 10-year-old boy in Morris was mauled in a backyard.
https://apnews.com/article/bear-attack-connecticut-woman-943fa3d2ea9407f2593ff047a42b5e94
The woman was attacked when she let her dog outside the cabin shortly after midnight, according to a news release from the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources.
“She went into the yard to check on the dog and the bear swiped at her, striking her in several places,” and left the area after the incident, the release said.
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/n...ries-woman-outside-gull-lake-cabin-in-nisswa/
Canadian Black Bear Kills Woman
https://www.hunttalk.com/threads/canadian-black-bear-kills-woman.301082/
I've personally had several bear encounters, and I can't think of a single time when it looked like there was any potential to get out of hand. I do believe the suggestion to have objects ready to throw is a good idea. That's what the National Park Service does to haze campground bears, although visitors aren't generally allowed to have such weapons. I was thinking a slingshot and pellets would work, but that's probably not OK to have.
The way to handle black bears is to yell and scream at them and be prepared to throw stuff at them. I remember seeing some documentary of a crew in Anchorage, Alaska that was tasked with hazing bears that tried to get into garbage put out on collection day. Once they found some bears, they just started yelling at them and then grabbed a trash can and just threw it at them and the bears took off. For a while I was thinking they must be fearless, but having talked to people who have worked in bear mitigation, it's not that hard to do.
Black bears are ruled by fear and food—in that order.
Researchers are frequently amazed at how cautious these powerful animals are about tiny unidentified rustling sounds of red squirrels, mice, or birds.
Black bears have retreated from butterflies, a pair of mallard ducks waddling into view, a fluttering moth landing on a bear, and many other unlikely causes.
Hunters who chase bears with hounds can chase the biggest bears with their smallest hound. Many small yapping dogs have chased black bears out of yards.
Bear Center researchers have never seen a black bear they couldn’t chase away. Many campers have saved their food by chasing away interested bears.
One of the biggest misconceptions about black bears is that mothers are likely to attack people in defense of cubs.
That is a grizzly bear trait. 70% of the killings by grizzly bears are by mothers defending cubs. But there is no record of a black bear killing anyone in defense of cubs.
In fact, mothers with cubs were involved in only 3 of the 60 killings by black bears across America since 1900, and none of those 3 killings appeared to be in defense of cubs.
Non-fatal attacks are also rare. By attacks, we mean mothers coming after someone and hurting them — not minor injuries associated with people hand-feeding them. Maybe a dozen people have had their feet bitten when they tried to escape up trees. Attacks on the ground are very rare.
When humans confront black bear families in the woods, the bears almost always retreat or climb trees. If the cubs climb trees and the mother remains nearby, the mother may show bluster. This makes her appear ferocious, but it simply means she is nervous.
GON
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Maybe look outside yourself to comprehend some things.
Nah. This was Southern California. The bears there tend to be pretty passive. I looked at the video and the bear was defensive but already leaving except that the dogs kept on coming at it. If anything, the dogs certainly weren't scared of the bear, but the bear was scared of the dogs because they wouldn't leave it alone.
But again, the way to handle a bear like that is to throw stuff at it. Bears absolutely hate that. Even grizzly bears. The suggestion of paintballs doesn't mention what the National Park Service, Forest Service, and various state parks use, which is clear paintballs.
Some dogs aren't very bright though. There were 2-3 little foo-foo dogs running at that bear, barking, and acting tough. They just have that instinct to "protect" their home/yard. We have two dogs, one a lab/pit mix but she's still only 50-ish pounds and a ****-zu that we rescued. He's about 12 pounds but charges the door, barks and growls, like he's tough.
Sometimes it works. French bulldog. One on three. Hardly a fair fight. For the bears. Monrovia is right next to Bradbury.
HAHAHA, that reminds me of my long gone Dachshunds. They were the sweetest pups ever, but if you threatened one of us, or they didn't want you near, it didn't matter if you were the size of a blue whale, they were bound and determined they were going to chase you off. Those little buggers had no fear and no idea that they were small.
My little Poodle mix would walk right up to a Coyote, or a rattlesnake if given the opportunity. That's not "toughness", but rather ignorance. Same as displayed by the woman in the first video.
A black bear is plenty strong and there’s the physical potential for injury via clawing. But they tend to be fearful of just about everything unless they’ve been conditioned otherwise (like bears that were intentionally fed).
Professional wildlife management will haze bears at a distance. Beanbags, rubber slugs, (clear) paintballs, etc. I remember seeing a documentary on National Park Service rangers obtaining clear paintballs to use to haze campground bears. Thought they might be custom made, but they’re apparently made for practice use where they don’t leave stains everywhere.
https://mcsus.com/blogs/general-articles/new-43-caliber-clear-training-paintballs
Good example. The teenager in the original video really isn't dumb like some comments suggest. All animals, including humans, have a fight or flight response. When an animal chooses to fight, regardless of its size or perceived strength, it tells the predator they aren't worth messing with.
