This can't be good....Al Qaeda with nukes
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I call him buff. Because they like to desciption (spell?) make everyone parnaoid that thinking they have nuclear material. Just like Iraq Saddam bunch of LIAR!
Doubtfull,they would have used them long ago. Telling everyone they have them is just another "form" of terrorism.
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let 'em use one on the US and see how many are returned to thier 'holy lands' in retaliation
......Don't kid yourself, if the US is nuked, it is policy to return tit-for-tat.
......Don't kid yourself, if the US is nuked, it is policy to return tit-for-tat.
Those of you familiar with the NYC area know that a nuclear power plant is about 25 miles up the Hudson River from the WTC site.
I shudder to think what would have been the consequences had this been the target.
[ March 22, 2004, 05:33 PM: Message edited by: GROUCHO MARX ]
I shudder to think what would have been the consequences had this been the target.
[ March 22, 2004, 05:33 PM: Message edited by: GROUCHO MARX ]
It's been said that Sadaam ran his country with a "beware of dog" sign, but in fact had no dog. I agree its just another form of psycho terroism, if they had one, they's used it.
Let the Muslim crazzies unleash the atom on the west.
I assure it will be a pro-quid quo retaliation.
All the liberal protests in Europe that would open can go shove it.
The only dilemna will be which service and weapon system get to be the lucky one to retaliate.
I can just imagine the Navy & Air Fore chiefs arguing over which service gets the order
I assure it will be a pro-quid quo retaliation.
All the liberal protests in Europe that would open can go shove it.
The only dilemna will be which service and weapon system get to be the lucky one to retaliate.
I can just imagine the Navy & Air Fore chiefs arguing over which service gets the order
Didn't these losers say they had suit case nuc's
right after 9-11. When they realized we were major pi$$ed off and GW was not BJ Clinton. If I remember they were threating to use them if we went after the Taliban. If these losers had them they would have already used it. Because even if you only had one and detonated it, you could say you had nine more.
right after 9-11. When they realized we were major pi$$ed off and GW was not BJ Clinton. If I remember they were threating to use them if we went after the Taliban. If these losers had them they would have already used it. Because even if you only had one and detonated it, you could say you had nine more.
Some time ago, I heard from somebody I consider reliable that suitcase nukes don't exist. The minimum size has to be bigger than that. Makes sense, I forget how much, but I know you need a hefty conventional explosion to set a nuke off. I wish I had a solid reference to this.
The bad part is that it would be entirely too easy to sneak even a huge bomb into the US. You don't even have to get it unloaded, an explosion in the harbor of poor old NYC would work fine. Baltimore would be closer to Washington DC. they could be waiting until nearer the election. This is not the best of times. Let's hope they are lying.
The bad part is that it would be entirely too easy to sneak even a huge bomb into the US. You don't even have to get it unloaded, an explosion in the harbor of poor old NYC would work fine. Baltimore would be closer to Washington DC. they could be waiting until nearer the election. This is not the best of times. Let's hope they are lying.
I understand they are the size of a steamer trunk.
Remember the James Bond movie Gold Finger and the Nuclear weapon he tried to use inside Ft Knox? They are about that size. And the yield is at the max one kilo ton. Max Blast damage would be in the 600 to 800 yard radius.
Remember the James Bond movie Gold Finger and the Nuclear weapon he tried to use inside Ft Knox? They are about that size. And the yield is at the max one kilo ton. Max Blast damage would be in the 600 to 800 yard radius.
There were nuclear 155mm artillery rounds, which means a ruggedized warhead 155mm (6.1 inches) in
diameter.
There was also the Davy Crocket jeep launched nuclear rocket that included a 51 lb W54 warhead. Don't believe the "needs to be as big as a steamer trunk" stories
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/w54.htm
But, as you said there are many other ways to bring in as big a warhead as you care to.
Fist time a nuclear weapon is detonated in the USA the countries that support terrorism better watch out. It is a totally new ball game then. Nuclear weapons used against the USA authorize the USA to use nuclear weapons.
Time for some people to ask the question-it is worth it?
Time for some people to ask the question-it is worth it?
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The "suitcase nukes" are allegedly just "dirty bombs" having no nuclear explosive component to them at all. This is what the resident military expert stated on FOX News.
Right, a fairly small dirty bomb could create a huge mess. In addition to real damage would be cleaning a city back to less than the background radiation in other areas. The fear mongering would be horrendous. So would the pressure to do something about it.
Even that yellow cake accidentally found in some scrap metal from Iraq a couple of months ago would have been plenty in the wrong hands.
I doubt it will surprise anyone when I suggest these dangerous times call for keeping a proven strong leader. George Bush has been tested and found dangerous to mess with.
Even that yellow cake accidentally found in some scrap metal from Iraq a couple of months ago would have been plenty in the wrong hands.
I doubt it will surprise anyone when I suggest these dangerous times call for keeping a proven strong leader. George Bush has been tested and found dangerous to mess with.
Terrorists reside in every country in the world, including those of our closest allies. Are we going to bomb London in response to a terrorist attack that originates from England??? Of course, it's a rhetorical question ....
This is no longer a war against a discrete Nation State - it is a worldwide police action as much as anything else. As such, it requires the cooperation of countries throughout the world. Even countries we aren't particularly friendly with, like those in the Mid East ....
Alienating those very Allies we need to be effective is short sighted and counter productive ...
This is no longer a war against a discrete Nation State - it is a worldwide police action as much as anything else. As such, it requires the cooperation of countries throughout the world. Even countries we aren't particularly friendly with, like those in the Mid East ....
Alienating those very Allies we need to be effective is short sighted and counter productive ...
My research indicated that the so called "suitcase" nukes exist. But they are extremely complex and originated in the Soviet Union. Like the US "backpack" nukes they require some assembly by someone who knows what he is doing. The kicker, however is that they have tritium triggers, and tritium has a half life of something like 12 years. Work the numbers and you will find that these bombs will not work, if they exist.
I am curious, What if it happening detonated a nuclear weapon on US soil. Where will US authorize the nuclear weapons to bomb somewhere?
The fact that Pakistan is suddenly willing to make a millitary incursion into Wazeristan might be an indication of a serious search/intradiction of nuclear device.
My research indicated that the so called "suitcase" nukes exist. Dickwells
Back in the 50s or 60's there was a nuclear weapon built into a 155mm cannon shell, so yes there are small weapons. Are the Islamic fundamentalists crazy enough to use them, I think 9-11 anwsers that question. We are after all talking about a group of people that are after a paradise not of this earth. They have shown they are willing to die for their beliefs and to gain entrance to a paradise that provides them with amenities their religion forbids them on earth. If they do use one I think it will be for shock value and be used on targets like the Golden Gate, Statue of Liberty, Disney Land or World.
Back in the 50s or 60's there was a nuclear weapon built into a 155mm cannon shell, so yes there are small weapons. Are the Islamic fundamentalists crazy enough to use them, I think 9-11 anwsers that question. We are after all talking about a group of people that are after a paradise not of this earth. They have shown they are willing to die for their beliefs and to gain entrance to a paradise that provides them with amenities their religion forbids them on earth. If they do use one I think it will be for shock value and be used on targets like the Golden Gate, Statue of Liberty, Disney Land or World.
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