The physics of back-off gargle

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Can someone explain to me the physics of the (what I think is delightful) sound produced by some performance exhausts when you back-off the throttle. I've sometimes heard it referred to as "back-off gargle."

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Simple reversion during off throttle. The CFM is greatly reduced during closed throttle periods during which cold air is sucked back into the pipes. Sometimes an aggressive tune is over fueling the engine which adds more fun, like flames and bangs!
 
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Simple reversion during off throttle. The CFM is greatly reduced during closed throttle periods during which cold air is sucked back into the pipes. Sometimes an aggressive tune is over fueling the engine which adds more fun, like flames and bangs!


My 98 Mustang did this and I miss it greatly. I had a Bassani off-road X pipe and Spintech mufflers and it was not only loud at WOT, but backfired and gargled like crazy on off throttle.

A Terminator with an offroad X pipe and either Bassani or Borla Stinger mufflers sounds like heaven when this happens.
 
Explanation makes perfect sense. I get just a little bit with my 370Z after having gone to a new (less restrictive) exhaust. I'm think of adding high flow cats and am wondering if I might get a little more gargle after.

Thanks for taking the time to reply
 
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Sometimes an aggressive tune is over fueling the engine which adds more fun, like flames and bangs!


A very high overlap cam adds to this effect as well, correct??


Aggressive cams can add to it, because it can mess with the exhaust pulse phasing under closed throttle/high rpm. Loud POPing is almost always excess fuel on the overrun.

Honestly, all cars gargle to some degree, it's just that the performance ones are more likely to have exhausts that are free-flowing enough to be able to hear it.
 
When one snaps the throttle shut, the mixture goes instantly rich for a split second. The flow through the pipe instantly stagnates as well. Therefore a vapour rich mixture is "very slowly" released out of the tailpipe where it hits oxygen and flashes off in pulses. This can continue as long as the injectors are still firing and the engine is coasting. It stops when the fuel is cut and the remaining fuel vapour in the pipe is expelled. Ultimately it all depends on the fuel-cut-off thresholds (ie above eg 2000rpm) and delay (for more than eg 2seconds).

Big backfires, even flames out of hihg-output engine exhaust after snapping the throttle shut from WOT is the same thing happening on a larger scale. Having just run very rich then snapping throttle closed, raw fuel residue may remain briefly in the combustion chamber or in exhaust path.

The fact that performance exhausts are rarely baffled and the pipe diameter is larger means the exhaust gas velocity is slower at all volumes, especially at closed throttle.

Some newer cars without "aggressive fuel cut off" keep the idle fuel going and supplement it with a bit more idle air, causing the car to coast (annoyingly) for a while, all in the name of smoothness and/or maintaining stoich without cutting injectors too often.
 
Originally Posted By: jrustles
Big backfires, even flames out of high-output engine exhaust after snapping the throttle shut from WOT is the same thing happening on a larger scale. Having just run very rich then snapping throttle closed, raw fuel residue may remain briefly in the combustion chamber or in exhaust path.


It's my guess that this^^ is what's happening when you see Sprint Cup cars spitting flames at the start of the turns on the long straight/tight turn "paper clip" shaped oval tracks.
 
Originally Posted By: SHOZ
My turbo pops and shoots flames sometimes out the pipe......


This effect is really cool in person, at night, in the middle of the dark woods, over the crest of a fast 'yump', as done by an Audi Quattro Sport during a Pro Rally.
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Since the car is airborne at the time, it almost looks like Paul Choiniere or John Buffum hit the afterburners for takeoff!!
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Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Sometimes an aggressive tune is over fueling the engine which adds more fun, like flames and bangs!


A very high overlap cam adds to this effect as well, correct??


Only at lower rpms...
 
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