I wonder if the cable companies pay $100/6 ft for the co-ax to deliver the digital cable to your home ??
Monster cable is the Enron of the conductor industry.
Monster cable is the Enron of the conductor industry.
The insanity of HDMI cable prices
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Originally Posted By: Papa Bear
I wonder if the cable companies pay $100/6 ft for the co-ax to deliver the digital cable to your home ??
Monster cable is the Enron of the conductor industry.
Several years ago I read on a professional audio discussion forum about an A/B/X test administered in a studio where a bunch of fish, *I mean audiophiles*, sorry, couldn't tell the difference between 6 feet of Monster Cable and *coat hangers*. The "skin effect", which is a theoretical phase non linearity in a heavy gauge cable which posits that higher frequencies may arrive marginally faster than lower, was not even detectable.
I also recall many, many years ago, preparing to drive 4 hours to Toronto to audition for a real, honest to gawd professional rock band. About 15 minutes before I had to leave, I realized that I'd left my bass amp's speaker cable at a rehearsal space in Detroit. Ol' dad and I kludged a cable out of some lamp cord and some old headphone 1/4" plugs. Worked like a charm; the low end was full and punchy. Sadly, I had learned all of their material a full step sharp because my cassette player was fast, but I can't blame that on the cable... And I got the gig anyway.
I wonder if the cable companies pay $100/6 ft for the co-ax to deliver the digital cable to your home ??
Monster cable is the Enron of the conductor industry.
Several years ago I read on a professional audio discussion forum about an A/B/X test administered in a studio where a bunch of fish, *I mean audiophiles*, sorry, couldn't tell the difference between 6 feet of Monster Cable and *coat hangers*. The "skin effect", which is a theoretical phase non linearity in a heavy gauge cable which posits that higher frequencies may arrive marginally faster than lower, was not even detectable.
I also recall many, many years ago, preparing to drive 4 hours to Toronto to audition for a real, honest to gawd professional rock band. About 15 minutes before I had to leave, I realized that I'd left my bass amp's speaker cable at a rehearsal space in Detroit. Ol' dad and I kludged a cable out of some lamp cord and some old headphone 1/4" plugs. Worked like a charm; the low end was full and punchy. Sadly, I had learned all of their material a full step sharp because my cassette player was fast, but I can't blame that on the cable... And I got the gig anyway.
Good morning uc50ic4more, how's my granddaughter doing this morning ??
uc50, what was the name of the band?
my $7.00 Monoprice 24 AWG Cat-2 certified, HDMI 1.3a certified HDMI cable, feels, looks 100X beefier and stable than the $50 monster cable from Rat Shack! (idk what gauge that even is); PQ is amazing, too.
Originally Posted By: Papa Bear
I wonder if the cable companies pay $100/6 ft for the co-ax to deliver the digital cable to your home ??
[Looking at my bill]... I think mine might.
I wonder if the cable companies pay $100/6 ft for the co-ax to deliver the digital cable to your home ??
[Looking at my bill]... I think mine might.
To the best of my knowledge, it matters little for digital signals as the "1" (as opposed to the "0") either gets there or it doesn't. Unless you have some SERIOUS interference, a basic cable should work as well as any other.
Analogue singles benefit more from good shielding.
Analogue singles benefit more from good shielding.
Originally Posted By: ToyotaNSaturn
uc50, what was the name of the band?
It was "Warpaint". I was an 18 year old hick moving to Toronto, the city where they call everyone else hicks. I had Papa Bear's '87 Accord, a garbage bag full of clothes, my instrument and ~$15Cdn. This is in 1991, and hair metal was about to take a major, major nosedive in mindshare among the always-fickle barely-post-pubescent crowd at the behest of grunge... Warpaint was a hair metal band.
It was awesome while it lasted, though... For about a year, there, it seemed like we were planted firmly on the path to success. Stupid flannel wearing, goatee sporting, miserable grunge bands.
Here are some photos taken by my ex-wife in our heyday (more accurately, during soundcheck, in our heyday). I'm on your left, with the white Gibson Thunderbird bass.
These days, I have a lot less hair and a bit more everywhere else.
uc50, what was the name of the band?
It was "Warpaint". I was an 18 year old hick moving to Toronto, the city where they call everyone else hicks. I had Papa Bear's '87 Accord, a garbage bag full of clothes, my instrument and ~$15Cdn. This is in 1991, and hair metal was about to take a major, major nosedive in mindshare among the always-fickle barely-post-pubescent crowd at the behest of grunge... Warpaint was a hair metal band.
It was awesome while it lasted, though... For about a year, there, it seemed like we were planted firmly on the path to success. Stupid flannel wearing, goatee sporting, miserable grunge bands.
Here are some photos taken by my ex-wife in our heyday (more accurately, during soundcheck, in our heyday). I'm on your left, with the white Gibson Thunderbird bass.
These days, I have a lot less hair and a bit more everywhere else.
Originally Posted By: Tempest
To the best of my knowledge, it matters little for digital signals as the "1" (as opposed to the "0") either gets their or it doesn't. Unless you have some SERIOUS interference, a basic cable should work as well as any other.
Yup, usually it either works or it doesn't. I've had a few cheap HDMI cables from WalMart that were DOA.
To the best of my knowledge, it matters little for digital signals as the "1" (as opposed to the "0") either gets their or it doesn't. Unless you have some SERIOUS interference, a basic cable should work as well as any other.
Yup, usually it either works or it doesn't. I've had a few cheap HDMI cables from WalMart that were DOA.
I read that HDMI was a bad spec because it tried to do everything for everybody so it does nothing at all, so cable quality doesn't matter much since it's the wrong cable for the task anyhow.
No reason to spend a lot on cables. Some friends who had some leftover Romex are using it as speaker wire. The speakers sound just fine to me!
No reason to spend a lot on cables. Some friends who had some leftover Romex are using it as speaker wire. The speakers sound just fine to me!
And I thought Monster cables were a complete farce...
This cable is only $21,000.00
http://www.noiseaddicts.com/2008/11/most-expensive-speaker-cable-world-audioquest-audiophile/
This cable is only $21,000.00
http://www.noiseaddicts.com/2008/11/most-expensive-speaker-cable-world-audioquest-audiophile/
Why does cable quality matter in 6' when the signal is digital?
Skin effect doesn't make a difference until you get down to nm (that's nano meter, thinner than your hair) thick wires in semiconductors.
Skin effect doesn't make a difference until you get down to nm (that's nano meter, thinner than your hair) thick wires in semiconductors.
I thought I read somewhere that the majority of the HDMI cable price went to licensing the technology?
Picked one up in a hurry at Wal-Mart, I think I paid 29 bucks, and even I was fuming over that one, but I didn't want to wait for my next NCIX shipment to get one.
Originally Posted By: gonesurfing
I thought I read somewhere that the majority of the HDMI cable price went to licensing the technology?
It does. That's why even the monoprice HDMI cable is still much more expensive than a monoprice USB cable.
The additional that Monster, Bestbuy, Office Depot, etc charges are pure profit.
I thought I read somewhere that the majority of the HDMI cable price went to licensing the technology?
It does. That's why even the monoprice HDMI cable is still much more expensive than a monoprice USB cable.
The additional that Monster, Bestbuy, Office Depot, etc charges are pure profit.
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Originally Posted By: Papa Bear
Got mine on eBay for $0.99 !! Shipped from Hong Kong for a total of $5.42
Isn't that something? I got a cable that way a few months ago. Shipped to the door from Hong Kong in days for a total of $2.93.
Joel
Got mine on eBay for $0.99 !! Shipped from Hong Kong for a total of $5.42
Isn't that something? I got a cable that way a few months ago. Shipped to the door from Hong Kong in days for a total of $2.93.
Joel
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