The BIG (FL-1995) and the small (XG 7317) cut open

[Team_FAST]

Changed the oil on my 2001 F-250 7.3L PowerStroke Diesel pickup.

The OCI was 3700 miles.
The oil during this interval was Chevron Delo 400LE 15W-50 It was replaced with Rotella T6 5W-40 Synthetic for winter. Based on past experience, plus looking at this filter, I will extend my OCI to at least 5000 miles.

The FL-1995 was drained for two days in the pan shown, then cut open using my filter cutter.

The bottom of the can was clean. The black stuff on the top of the filter cartridge is not sludge. It looks like some kind of rubber bonding adhesive...perhaps used to attach the media to the endcaps:

Here is the filter, broken down. There is no anti-drainback valve in this filter. When changing the oil on the truck, I pre-fill this filter with almost 2 quarts of oil! oil in the pan is from the filter.

A closeup of the filter media and the seam. I think it looks outstanding....especially for a diesel.

Now, here's the XG7317 from our Infiniti FX-45 running Mobil 1 using a 5000 mile OCI:

Can also looks nice and clean. Oil filter didn't drain out due to the anti-drainback valve.

Here's the breakdown:

Looks darker than it is on this camera. Nothing of concern here for me. If I let the filter media drain on the paper towel for a day or two, it would lighten up like the truck filter.

Now, for fun, here's the comparison of the sizes of these two filters. Quite a difference!! The Infiniti hold about 6 quarts, and the truck holds 15 quarts...

Hope you found this useful!

-erik

 

[Chris142]

My truck can use the 1995. But I have been avoiding it since the tearolater thing started.

 

[redhat]

Both look great. I currently have an XG7317 on my Accord with 5,400mi on the filter/oil.

Plan to go at least 10k on the filter.

 

[sir1900]

Looks good. Thanks for the C&P.

The Ultra was pulled from service way too early IMO.

 

[mulehead]

One nice filter cutter you have there

 

[Merkava_4]

That Chevron Delo 15W-50 did an outstanding job keeping that filter clean. It makes the filter used on that Infinity look filthy.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: sir1900
Looks good. Thanks for the C&P.

The Ultra was pulled from service way too early IMO.


+1 ... run it out to at least 12K if the engine is pretty clean inside.

Ultra for 2 OCIs for 12K miles of use

 

[CDX825]

Originally Posted By: Chris142
My truck can use the 1995. But I have been avoiding it since the tearolater thing started.


Same here. No more FL 1995's for me.

I had one I cut open a couple years back that did have a slight tear in the media. This was before the issue was well known with purolator.

 

[gold01ca]

I wasn't aware of the issues with the FL1995, what are you using as a substitute?

Just did an oil change on my "02 7.3L, used a Mann filter I had on hand.

 

[Sayjac]

Both look good to me. Looking at the MC, agree with your plan to run to 5k. Also agree the FU very underutilized at 5k miles.

Thanks for the pics.

 

[Team_FAST]

My concern with the XG7317 is the overall filter size....that's a tiny filter for a 4.5L V-8 engine!

Never ever had a problem with the FL-1995 filters.

I am also curious, what would be an acceptable alternative??? If Fram made an Ultra filter in this size, I might run it.

 

[HerrStig]

What's with the string?

 

[Sayjac]

Originally Posted By: HerrStig
What's with the string?

For lack of a better term it's assembly string, generally seen on larger/longer Puro applications. The link shows a PL30001 also using one.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3341525/P1_and_an_Autolite_(Fram)

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: Team_FAST
My concern with the XG7317 is the overall filter size....that's a tiny filter for a 4.5L V-8 engine!


That 7317 will flow way more oil than that engine is capable of producing.

In fact, the 7317 sized filter - 14610 in Purolator - has the same amount of flow area as the 14006 sized filter specified for my 5.0L V8 Vette engine (LS6).

 

[daman]

That MC filter could easily do two OCI, 10k. It looks no where near loaded, Stretch it out a bit.

 

[Team_FAST]

Originally Posted By: mulehead
One nice filter cutter you have there


Thanks. Designed and machined it myself. There is a thread in this section about it.

 

[CDX825]

Originally Posted By: Team_FAST

Never ever had a problem with the FL-1995 filters.

I am also curious, what would be an acceptable alternative??? If Fram made an Ultra filter in this size, I might run it.


XG3786

Even the standard PH3786 Would be better than the FL-1995 in my opinion. It uses metal end caps and looks to be a well built filter. They make a Tough guard version as well. TG3786 Ive seen all 3 versions at wal mart before.

I just can't bring myself to use a Motorcraft filter after all the media tearing issues.