Texans...anyone else seeing a large property tax increase?

Keep in mind that is median for the state.
So half the state has higher property taxes, and half the state lower
Oh absolutely. Which is why its a bit misleading.

For example SC is only 0.5%. That is approximately where I am at. However I am in the SC tax cap increase and moved in 2014 so the neighbor next door pays double. Were also in an unincorporated part of the county so those within town limits pay triple.

Which is sort of my statement - some percentage on average is useful at a macro level but not so much at an individual level.
 
Just got my 2026 Notice of Appraised Value. Here are my 2026 vs. 2025 deltas:

Market value: -1.88%
Appraised value +9.1%
Estimated 2026 tax: +17.45%

That's not the point, though. I'm just very curious why, after three years of a relatively steady state, my tax bill jumped over 17%. While I'm refurbing the house, most of the work is inside and I've made no major exterior improvements. It's just a curiosity.
It appears from my vantage there is 2 parts to your increase.

Your appraised value rose 9.1%. So presumably about half the increase is due to this.

Overall tax is almost twice that - 17.45%. So it appears your government has decided to spend more and 8.35% approx is due to that - ie your millage rate increased. You most likely cannot appeal this - I assume they followed whatever budgeting process is law for you.

Is the -1.88% market value something they provided - or where did that come from? I don't see its relevance?
 
And how about not taking money from childless couples to pay for schools and other child related needs. I've noticed all the people angry about high taxes never seem to mention that side of things, since of course they all have kids and are just fine making childless couples subsidize them.
Educating children is for the good of society. Most of us have had children that were educated by taxes. If you can make a compelling argument why society shouldn't educate our children please do so. I'm more mature on here and society has paid for my children. Now I have to pay for others. If you did not save enough to pay taxes, Healthcare, housing in retirement that's on you- respectfully.
 
Educating children is for the good of society. Most of us have had children that were educated by taxes. If you can make a compelling argument why society shouldn't educate our children please do so. I'm more mature on here and society has paid for my children. Now I have to pay for others. If you did not save enough to pay taxes, Healthcare, housing in retirement that's on you- respectfully.
The majority of people in this country were educated by public schools. Someone paid for them. Now some don't want to pay it forward.
 
You were asking @Capt W, but let me chime in.

IMO the problems with our school system are the result of parents wanting the school system to raise their children. The root cause of this is the dual income family. By no means am I suggesting that woman should be excluded from the workplace. Far from it. What I'm saying is that one parent should be the bread winner and the other parent home to raise the kids. It doesn't matter which gender does what. Whatever best suits the family's needs.

People always complain about affordability and such. There are many reasons for this, but IMO one of the primary reasons, if not the root cause, was the creation of the dual income family. I'm a capitalist, but dual incomes are capitalism's wet dream because it's doubled the number of consumers which doubled their spending power. A larger consumer base, all at the expense of the family unit.

Our schools need improvement, but schools aren't the primary problem. Rather, it's the shirking of parental responsibility to the school system.

Scott

I fully agree with your assessment (but believe there are several other variables). I say this as the youngest of five whose mom was always home while we grew up. Following that trend, my wife stayed home while our three kids grew up. My dad was a civil servant and I was a career military guy. My wife's stay-at-home status was very rare...even in the military. She home-schooled all of them up to junior high...and our daughter all the way through high school. They are all a cut above their peers.

Other variables - depending on where you may live - include far too many districts deciding to eschew the basics in favor of technology. Worrying about issuing tablets and laptops in lieu of drilling the basic 3-Rs has always been an absurdity to me. Basic skills have been abandoned in favor of the "easy button." The negative ramifications are everywhere if you choose to look. Peoples' basic math and grammar skills are long gone -- and nobody cares. Offer a correction and you get a quick "spelling nazi" retort. A lot of these eroded skills are because we decided it's OK to let the machine do the work. This is not to say I'm against technology. There's a time and place for it, though. And the early grades aren't that time. My wife teaches part-time at a parochial K-8 school. There's not a single computer in the place (for the students, obviously). All instruction is done old-school with emphasis on the basics. There's a three-year waiting list to get in.

Another variable is the quality of teachers. I know a lot of them, and sadly, most I know seem to be in it for the job security instead of as a calling. And a lot of them are...just plain dumb. Until a few months ago the renter next door was a third-grade teacher at the local elementary school. She was so dumb I couldn't stand any conversations longer than a minute or two. I kept thinking "this idiot teaches kids?" Totally maddening...especially when she'd tell me she's "finna have to conversate with the landlord." Good grief. And of course the unions don't help when it comes to removing these morons. That's another topic I guess.

I don't have the answers and I think a lot of people posting here make great points. Most of them, it seems, are older like myself and remember the good old days. I see today's public school situation as a microcosm of greater society. As we speed toward becoming a very divided version of Idiocracy, our institutions are simply following suit. Society is crumbling, so why wouldn't the schools? Hasn't almost every other pillar of 20th Century America started to fall apart?
 
You always say how one of the core principles of capitalism is to maximize profits. We're now seeing massive layoffs in the tech sector - while at the same time these companies are enjoying record profits. Oracle is a good example.

I read the Silicon Valley news and all the "woe is me" from those who have been laid off. Give me a break. The people who now complain are the very types who thought laid off autoworkers in Detroit should learn how to write code. I have ZERO sympathy for the job losses I see going on in high tech. In fact, I think it's fair comeuppance.

As I said, I'm a capitalist, but I think capitalism needs guardrails. Offshoring our factory jobs was a betrayal to our society. So is the H1B program.

Let me add, both Sue and I are well educated and enjoyed lucrative careers. That said, Sue retired from nursing when our first child was born and remained retired until both our children were out on their own. Both our sons are successful and I don't attribute that to our DNA or school system. Instead I attribute that to Sue being an at home mother.

We paid a significant price for our 25 year long single income family choice. We may have lived in Los Gatos but there were times we lived on rice and beans and were literally out of money for a day or two before I got paid.

As far as your comment about the "horse leaving the barn a longtime ago". That is true, but I also believe this country is on the wrong track and dual incomes, our school system, the internet, our disappearing middle class, our radicalized two party political system, Wall Street greed, chronic budget deficits with no accountability, money printing, etc., are all part of it. Something needs to be done about it. IMO, if changes don't happen - and soon - you and I are going to witness the failure of this nation.

What makes you think the money you have stashed away in your Schwab or Fidelity accounts will even be there when you need it?

Scott
Scott, let me address your points, which are important because they touch on today's realities.
Yes, the profit motive is the primary driving Capitalism force. By definition. But pure Capitalism will lead to monopolies, etc. So governments need to manage economies and provide for society's needs that Capitalism is not appropriate for.

I imagine most people are affected negatively by job loss; it's part of life. I genuinely feel for those. One of the reasons I bought a Tesla was the reopening of the shuttered GM/NUMMI plant. I salute Musk for his American investment. I also counsel others in the need to save for a rainy day, which is sure to come one way or another.

Your point about Capitalism guardrails is critical. America is a mixed market economy with strong elements of Socialsim. Military, public education, Police Force, etc are examples. H1B visas would not be necessary if we had the talent here. Education is key and is sorely lacking.

I salute you and your lady's choice; it is more and more rare. However, I am no one to judge other's choices.

Are we as a country on the wrong track? If so, what do we do about it? Hence my question in the earlier post. I have my own ideas. As a side note, we are entering the AI age, which promises to be a huge inflection point. We ain't seen nothing yet.

As far as the money I have in my investments, I cannot predict the future. In the mean time, one of the great joys in life is the ability to work with others. Right or wrong, real change often involves money. Being able to help (work with) people who have faced disaster, get into a property, get a vehicle for work, etc, help pay for education costs and sometimes just food paves the way to happiness. That's my experience. Having struggled so long due to my own choices give me perspective. I know who I am and never wanna live that way again.

America, and the world, are not going back. Change is the only constant. You and I both know Silicon Valley is a brutal, heartless entity that chews up people and spits out money. Having said I that, most of the country benefits from the tax revenue generated here. Not to mention the tech and opportunity here.

I hope this clarifies my point of view. All good Scott!
 
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Huh?
You need nothing special to search for Home sale prices, no bots no scripts. Simple stuff.

You could go street by street in Zillow and pull up all the comps within a mile from the house that sells. It’s really simple Zillow lists every single sale price for every single house on every single block in almost the entire country.

Not only that, but you can also go to the tax assessor’s office of almost any modern county in the United States online and look up the sale prices of houses that way as well.

Easy stuff once you learn the systems available right from your computer and it is not realtor.com
What you comment on is frankly dismissive and not helpful, but thanks anyway.
 
If you can make a compelling argument why society shouldn't educate our children please do so.
Whether your kids are in public school or not, and whether or not you are happy to pay property taxes for public education is beside the fact that parents should educate their children, not society. Maybe you didn't intend it to come out that way, but I certainly have issues with society educating my child.
 
Wife is a public high school teacher, and had two kids graduate not that long ago. My kids went to a large >3000 student generally above average high school in a well below average state. The very short version is kids that want to learn do - and kids that don't - do not. My kids both got several AP courses (college credit) and every one the state offered was available. Both my kids aced the SAT and got academic scholarships in state. We know a child - another teachers child - got academic scholarship to Princeton from same school at same time.

Meanwhile other kids languish around, cause trouble, and complain that the school did not educate, them. They had access to the exact same resources as my kids. Lack of personal responsibility.

IMO the problems with our school system are the result of parents wanting the school system to raise their children.
100%. A significant percentage of the parents are simply looking for free daycare. They continue to extend the school year and push for full year school 100% for this reason.
Other variables - depending on where you may live - include far too many districts deciding to eschew the basics in favor of technology.
Not possible. All schools must meet standardized testing requirements from the fed to get federal funding - in grade 3, 8 and once in high school - usually 11. There are several schools in SC that the state took over control from the local school boards because they missed there score requirements too many times.

As for stuff outside the standard - like computer use and such - thats up to the local district, so if locals don't like it go to a school board meeting and get involved.
 
parents should educate their children, not society.
In the industrial revolution it was determined that the need for a more educated workforce was a benefit - why places like US, Germany and Japan thrived while agrarian societies, well, stayed agrarian. At the same time child labor laws took affect - public schools were legislated, and a public education became akin to a right.

And the proof is in the pudding. You can track the countries with and without good public education and GDP per capita follows.

Feel free to move to one of those other places however.

In no way do I not agree that parents need to teach there kids at home. But kids need a place to go learn while there parents are at work as well.
 
In the industrial revolution it was determined that the need for a more educated workforce was a benefit - why places like US, Germany and Japan thrived while agrarian societies, well, stayed agrarian. At the same time child labor laws took affect - public schools were legislated, and a public education became akin to a right.

And the proof is in the pudding. You can track the countries with and without good public education and GDP per capita follows.

Feel free to move to one of those other places however.

In no way do I not agree that parents need to teach there kids at home. But kids need a place to go learn while there parents are at work as well.
I'm not saying get rid of schools...I'm saying that regardless of where or how your kid is educated it is the responsibility of the parents to ensure and oversee education. Too many parents leave this to the schools and then wonder why their kids struggle.
 
Are we as a country on the wrong track? If so, what do we do about it? Hence my question in the earlier post. I have my own ideas.

I hope this clarifies my point of view. All good Scott!
I'm not sure there's much we can do about it. I've always told people to get out and vote. I don't think that matters anymore. The reality is just 2 or 3 thousand people rule the entire planet.

It's all good from my end too.

Cheers,

Scott
 
H1B visas would not be necessary if we had the talent here. Education is key and is sorely lacking.
I meant to include this in my previous post...

Having grown up in Silicon Valley before it was even called that, I've seen an erosion of effort by, let me call them, "native" Americans. For example, my BIL and SIL lived in a Saratoga neighborhood that was probably 50 percent Asian. The boy in the family who lived next door to them, as well as my nieces, went to some of the finest public schools in the entire state.

Back in the '80s when report cards were sent home USPS, my nieces and the Asian boy next door received their reports cards on the same day. When the father of the boy next door got home from work you'd hear his son screaming in terror, probably because he got a single A minus instead of straight As.

In contrast my nieces, whom I love dearly, were unmotivated and were B minus students at best. But, my BIL and SIL were satisfied with that. As a consequence, both my nieces live bare bones lifestyles to the point they still need periodic financial support from their aging parents. In contrast, I'd venture to bet that Asian boy next door is earning a fortune.

I agree that education is key, but many in the boomer generation were content with letting their children achieve mediocrity. Temporary happiness was more important than long term achievement. I may be a boomer but I ran a very tight ship. There was no slacking off in our house. The career success of both our boys proves that was the right strategy.

We wouldn't need H1B visas if more had been expected from our "native" children.

Scott
 
Parents should educate their children? Some do, some don't. I kinda think most don't, but who knows? Some kids don't have parents.
So what happens to the kids that fall through the cracks for whatever reason?

There are no easy answers. Personally, I am taking some young people to Foothill College tonight for a Cosmology Lecture tonight.
A teacher once told me, "Science is man's endless search for truth in nature." I never forgot it.
Prof. Einstein famously said, "I have no special talent, I am only passionately curious."

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I meant to include this in my previous post...

Having grown up in Silicon Valley before it was even called that, I've seen an erosion of effort by, let me call them, "native" Americans. For example, my BIL and SIL lived in a Saratoga neighborhood that was probably 50 percent Asian. The boy in the family who lived next door to them, as well as my nieces, went to some of the finest public schools in the entire state.

Back in the '80s when report cards were sent home USPS, my nieces and the Asian boy next door received their reports cards on the same day. When the father of the boy next door got home from work you'd hear his son screaming in terror, probably because he got a single A minus instead of straight As.

In contrast my nieces, whom I love dearly, were unmotivated and were B minus students at best. But, my BIL and SIL were satisfied with that. As a consequence, both my nieces live bare bones lifestyles to the point they still need periodic financial support from their aging parents. In contrast, I'd venture to bet that Asian boy next door is earning a fortune.

I agree that education is key, but many in the boomer generation were content with letting their children achieve mediocrity. Temporary happiness was more important than long term achievement. I may be a boomer but I ran a very tight ship. There was no slacking off in our house. The career success of both our boys proves that was the right strategy.

We wouldn't need H1B visas if more had been expected from our "native" children.

Scott
It's no secret I attend, and flat-out love, the plethora of Science events around here. Sometimes it seems I am the only pair of blue eyes in the place. Go walk the Stanford campus... Or Berkeley.
 
Yep, 100% that's going to pass in California.

Scott

A "wealth tax," perhaps. An exit tax, never. Butterbean Pritzker was suggesting such a thing in Illinois a few years ago to combat that great sucking sound out of the state. He came to his senses when everyone - on both sides of the aisle - reminded him it's blatantly unconstituional.
 
Whether your kids are in public school or not, and whether or not you are happy to pay property taxes for public education is beside the fact that parents should educate their children, not society. Maybe you didn't intend it to come out that way, but I certainly have issues with society educating my child.
Let's back up. What I meant was-yes society needs to pay for public schools. If you want to home school your children-that's a different topic.
I don't know how in context you could have taken my post differently-but I clarified it for you.
 
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