“Test drives on public roads are not allowed”

Now $2999. How low will it go before they find a buyer?
If they'd allow you to verify no major engine or transmission issues by idling, driving around the parking lot and looking for a crankcase milkshake.....could be worth it.

Still, very odd they won't allow a legit test drive
 
Well, I drove it today, or as much of a 'drive' as you can have with a car that doesn't have a second gear synchro. The transmission is totally hosed and the clutch was slower on the rebound than a lead basketball. I didn't need a highway test drive to know it's total junk. I had to pop the clutch four times to get it to go into reverse to park it.

On the positive side the engine seemed fine.

The 20-something sales guy had to go hunting for someone who could drive a manual to bring it to the building. Much amusement was had by all the older folks in the showroom. The price on the website this morning was $2799. It will be interesting to see if it changes after my experience.
 
There’s a fairly large Chevy dealer nearby who has a manual 2010 Mazda6 with 132k miles listed for $4k as an “as acquired” vehicle.

https://www.tomgillchevrolet.com/in...er_listings&stocknum=36907A&atc_ownerid=72378

One very interesting thing about this listing is in the fine print (emphasis added):


I had a sleazy buy here, pay here lot in Cincinnati not let me drive a Mazda5 a couple of years ago, but this seems unusual for a legit dealer. I wonder if they actually enforce this or if it’s just boiler plate?
It’s because they are selling it un-prepped. It hasn’t been through their workshop so they do know know if it is road worthy.

They are essentially selling it as a trade vehicle, if you but a vehicle from an auction you don’t get to road test it first.
 
It’s because they are selling it un-prepped. It hasn’t been through their workshop so they do know know if it is road worthy.

They are essentially selling it as a trade vehicle, if you but a vehicle from an auction you don’t get to road test it first.
It’s because it’s undrivable. See post #49.
 
Yeah, and that’s because it’s not been prepped, hence the lower than market value price.

It’s not being sold as ready to go/ drive it’s sold as is and by the sounds of it it’s fairly obvious why the cars not been prepped.
What is the wholesale price of a 2010 Mazda6 with 132k miles and a shot clutch? My guess is a lot less than there still asking.

They likely also want there dealer fee.

If they were selling it off the back of the lot at wholesale then I would agree with you.
 
It’s because they are selling it un-prepped. It hasn’t been through their workshop so they do know know if it is road worthy.

They are essentially selling it as a trade vehicle, if you but a vehicle from an auction you don’t get to road test it first.
You're giving them a lot of credit. Someone who knows cars evaluated at it and decided it wasn't worth their workshop's time and expense. Advertising them this way gives the hopeful buyer the idea that "Maybe it's something simple and they haven't had time to look at it."
 
What is the wholesale price of a 2010 Mazda6 with 132k miles and a shot clutch? My guess is a lot less than there still asking.

They likely also want there dealer fee.

If they were selling it off the back of the lot at wholesale then I would agree with you.
Price on something like is, they want as much as they can get and the buyer needs to bid them down after assessing the vehicles worth.
You're giving them a lot of credit. Someone who knows cars evaluated at it and decided it wasn't worth their workshop's time and expense. Advertising them this way gives the hopeful buyer the idea that "Maybe it's something simple and they haven't had time to look at it."
If someone who’s uneducated about cars buys it thinking it’s a simple fix then that’s on them, people like that should buy approved cars with warranty.

As for it being evaluated all that would have taken is someone who can drive a stick to move it and they know it’s not going in the workshop. Cars value is too low.

I think they are trying to get as much back for it as possible after over paying for it hence to sending it to auction
 
Yeah, and that’s because it’s not been prepped.
We have different definitions of “prepped.” To me prep is detailing, changing fluids, maybe replacing brake pads and tires. I never considered replacing a transmission as prep work.
 
Price on something like is, they want as much as they can get and the buyer needs to bid them down after assessing the vehicles worth.

If someone who’s uneducated about cars buys it thinking it’s a simple fix then that’s on them, people like that should buy approved cars with warranty.

As for it being evaluated all that would have taken is someone who can drive a stick to move it and they know it’s not going in the workshop. Cars value is too low.

I think they are trying to get as much back for it as possible after over paying for it hence to sending it to auction
I politely disagree. There is a pretty big difference in the USA at least between resale and wholesale. Different expectations on what your getting, disclosures, etc.

Yes a unknowledgeable person should not buy these cars, which is why most new car dealers do not sell like this. They have a reputation to uphold, which these dealers no longer seem to care about. By not allowing a reasonable test drive there hiding the most egregious issues. Yes its caveat emptor but taking advantage of someone is still fraud.

I worked at a new car dealer as a kid. We would get hoopty trades and they would go to the back of the lot, and the boss would call a couple used car dealers in to see if they wanted them. He would usually accumulate a bunch and sell them as a package deal - take them all or I call the next guy. The only ones beyond those guys the boss would sell them to were employees, the mechanics would occasionally grab one to fix for someone they knew.
 
Since I test drove it they have my email. They sent me a note today to let me know the price has dropped to $2499. I need to make sure to copy the VIN so I can Google it in a few months and see if it shows up at auction somewhere.

1YVHZ8BHXA5M42888 I’ll park it here so I won’t forget.
 
My brother bought a used $50,000 GMC pickup from a Chevy dealer a few years ago. Dealer had a small private test track inside a fenced in area. No test drives on public roads. Just weird to me.
 
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