As someone who has ridden in the back seat of a Police Squad Car on numerous occasions, my preference is a Crown Vicky...
Teslas unusable for Law Enforcement Cali
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Only did that once, Halloween night with my friend as a teenager. There was plenty of room in the back for the both of us and the cops were nice, made sure to ask if the handcuffs were to tight and not to lean back on them as they will tighten up.
One of my sisters friends turned out to be a cop, noticed my name and asked if I was her brother as we were handcuffed to the wall in headquarters. They did make nice notes on our arrest record.
But wasnt a nice scene when my dad walked into the police station and saw me handcuffed to the wall. *LOL* I did not enjoy the ride home with him.
AG you are a far better man than I... And I bet you drank a lot less back in the day.
Thank god! I never wanted to do that again! Is this an example of "early intervention"
I said that a thousand times. The good judges said, "Didn't we get your attention last time?"Thank god! I never wanted to do that again! Is this an example of "early intervention"
Cali politicians need to lead with example and all change to EVs first 
When I worked for a police department in the mid 80's they were using Plymouth Reliant K cars. They also tried Ford Taurus' and Chevy Lumina's. They were all Police packages but the front wheel drive couldn't take the abuse. The Taurus looked neat because they used them in the original Robo-Cop movie.
People are fatter here.
The police around here load up the interior with 2000 lbs of military grade telemetry and equipment. Looks like a submarine or an airplane cockpit.
Thats why a lot of pickups, suburbans and other SUVs are buzzing around with police decor, then they complain that their Ford Escape cop car can’t catch anything.
Absolutely just the USA. Higher standard of living and policing in the world‘s greatest nation. We don’t need to downgrade.
I don’t see any facts and figures presented here as to the actual cars used.
It’s one of those dilemmas, if it’s posted in a forum it must be true.
Not only that, but we compare policing in a massive country like the USA against postage stamp countries with corresponding populations.
But let’s compare for one moment not that it matters but I read this article and I keep hearing the word spacious in the UK.
https://factsabout.london/knowledge/what-cars-do-london-police-use/
Here is the whole shooting match
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Police_cars_by_country#U
Was your goal to prove my point? If we have more space for cars we need to take them up with bigger cars? I’ll never understand the bigger is better approach to vehicles. It to me is counterintuitive to what makes a good car a good car. Trying to tell a someone that drives a compact(apparently subcompact in the US) that they’re tight and uncomfortable would be like speaking to me in German. I don’t understand what that means.
We need military grade equipment to police citizens? What sense does that make?
The Blazer EV PPV is a much better option and solves most of the Model 3 & Y police car problems.
• Factory police wiring and electrical systems.
• Vastly larger backseat. Overall interior and seat width is better, so easier for police officer duty belts. Seats are even police specific and contour to the duty belt.
• 19.2kW Level 2 charging = much faster charging on basic 240v infrastructure.
https://www.gmenvolve.com/fleet/police/chevrolet-blazer-ppv-ev
• Factory police wiring and electrical systems.
• Vastly larger backseat. Overall interior and seat width is better, so easier for police officer duty belts. Seats are even police specific and contour to the duty belt.
• 19.2kW Level 2 charging = much faster charging on basic 240v infrastructure.
https://www.gmenvolve.com/fleet/police/chevrolet-blazer-ppv-ev
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They’re only using Teslas because prewired EVs aren’t the norm yet. I’m sure we’ll see these soon enough.
They’re also much smaller than the Explorer and now the F150s my local department is buying, so I’m sure plenty will complain even though this is likely a great compromise for an EV police vehicle.
I never understood the need to go 0-60 in under 3 seconds. Who in their right mind would spend all that money to go that fast when they will never go that fast?
Some people are Bozos, it seems. Don't ask me how I know...
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If I felt the need to do so I'd simply get a top notch sport bike.
Not everyone is doing that. It seems nearly everyone is doing the other.
Wow, well done GM
I think EV would make a great high speed pursuit vehicle sort of like Mustangs of the past.
I watched video of a chase of a v8 Camaro and they could not shake the Model 3 cop vehicle on curvy roads.
I watched video of a chase of a v8 Camaro and they could not shake the Model 3 cop vehicle on curvy roads.
Perhaps you guys missed my sarcasm. I bought the Performance version because that's what I wanted. This car can make life miserable for cars 3x its price, and beyond.
I would buy another tomorrow if something happened to mine. It's that good.
Totally agree. An extra vehicle sitting around when there's another vehicle type shortage is a cost as well. In my area there're lots of Chevy bolt city gov cars, not for police but more for sending admins out to check on stuff here and there, but they do get used very often. We are on a flat land and we are like 5 miles x 10 miles so the range is never a problem. It wouldn't work in a city on the grape vine having to go up and down 2000ft of elevation in winter weather obviously, and it wouldn't work in an area with very low budget and low gas price (those probably would do better buying fewer cheaper gas cop cars that can do everything).I don't see a pure EV, as they are in present form as a viable patrol car option. We tried and failed at not idling vehicles. Just wasn't conducive for my department so that temporary policy was negated rather quickly. It may work for other departments which was mentioned above. CA is pretty large! A hybrid could be a viable option. As I know it now there is no solution to simply long time idling with an EV. Lots will say this and that and it sounds great in theory but not so much in application.
Some of the arguments made are true but rather weak in application. The weakest is the size argument. Ford Taurus or Dodge Charger have plenty of room...NOT after all theis installed. Remember, RMP's are not designed as such so there is little to no integration and what integration has made it in, is anything but seamless. As a patrol boss I could not assign Taurus' or Charger' to multiple cops that were fat or over 6'2.
Overall cost is the largest hindrance, IMO. I can only speak to NY but it is hard to beat the state contract for Tahoe' and they have room for everything, solid 4WD system, etc.. Many of us would complete an expected lifetime analysis and determine an EV, hybrid, or ICE costs. Very few to almost NO government agency does that UNLESS they have a project they need to sell to a council or voters. Gov't is almost always kicking that can down the road!
Edit to add: I am not an EV fan for my use in my life. Not a good fit for me. BUT I see many excellent applications for EV' in Gov't. Water dept, DPW applications like a foreman vehicle, code enforcement, parking enforcement is a no-brainer IMO and many more.
That's my view on it and may not apply to your geographical area.
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Understood and I've noticed it makes absolutely no difference what any moving object is capable of if the operator doesn't have the spine/mindset to optimize it in a safe/effective/efficient manner. I've left a few Teslas sitting at lights as they assumed it was a cakewalk. I could tell by their eventual brisk acceleration and attempting to pass me that was their original intention.