Tesla Introduces a Base CyberTruck for $59,999

[97prizm]

I was just about to post the exact same thing. I lusted after 80's Trans Am's but my dad warned me within inches of my life if I brought one home (and I came close several times). My friend worked on the F-body line back in the 80's for a while and I remember him saying back then "I wouldnt buy one of these if they were $1, and I'm one of the people building the bleep-bleep things". I still think they are cool looking cars though, but too many of them escaped the supposed-assembly line less than half baked.

The Cybermess isnt my cup of tea, but I would not turn down any offer to let me drive one, I have yet to drive a Tesla that didnt impress me. Never understood the hatred toward them either, but whatever. I've looked at a lot of the cars in people's signatures here and wonder why the hell someone would want any of them too. No offense to anyone here, I really dont care what other people drive and I'm not going to disparage them or call them names for it.

People have a dislike for it due to the ridiculous over-the-top performance that Musk claimed. He flat-out lied. There's no way a competent ceo didn't know the performance stats way before it was delivered. Two months before it was hastily shown off posters of the Cybertruck and Musk were still claiming 500 miles of range. Tesla had to buy back quite a few of them as they had parts fall off, they weren't being shipped with the "included " promised light bar, broke down off road, didn't tow the 14k lbs Musk promised, claimed it could float ( How stupid did Musk think Americans really were?) And on and on. It was a hypemobile that really isn't good at anything truck related.

 

[Fattylocks]

I'm liking the Cyber Truck more as time goes on. I thought it was hideously ugly at first but somehow have grown to like it robot truck style.
I see a lot of them running around my area. Some painted.
The deal might not be so bad. Let's see what they cost next February.

 

[Fattylocks]

I think a lot of the virulent CT / Tesla hate is because people have decided that E. Musk is the worst villain of all time.

 

[JeffKeryk]

I think a lot of the virulent CT / Tesla hate is because people have decided that E. Musk is the worst villain of all time.

I hear that around here, and it has definitely hurt Tesla sales. Each to his/her own, but like to support the Fremont 30K workers. They gotta eat too and have been a great boon to the area. Lotta jobs!

 

[4wd]

I'm liking the Cyber Truck more as time goes on. I thought it was hideously ugly at first but somehow have grown to like it robot truck style.
I see a lot of them running around my area. Some painted.
The deal might not be so bad. Let's see what they cost next February.

Many now are wrapped and don’t look as LG/Samsung

 

[GON]

Many now are wrapped and don’t look as LG/Samsung

Posted this last summer. Met my grandsons and daughter at El paso airport last summer. Walking to through short term parking, the grandsons spotted a cyber truck and got super excited.

The Cyber truck had advertising wrap, and surely was a very good avenue for eye catching advertising.

I don't understand tattoos, not for a second. Yet they are super popular in people much younger than me. Just because I don't get it.... Doesn't mean it's wrong.... The Cyber truck may be the best long term advertising campaign for future vehicle owners. Who knows. Just like tattoos, the Cyber truck styling I may not grasp.... But maybe two generations younger get it.


I may not live long enough to know what TSLA did or didn't accomplish long term with the Cyber truck. Tons of patents, many first time engineering ever in a pickup.

None come to mind, but I am sure there are a list of first time inventions that looked like a flop, and only years later became a very successful item.

 

[Patman]

Posted this last summer. Met my grandsons and daughter at El paso airport last summer. Walking to through short term parking, the grandsons spotted a cyber truck and got super excited.

The Cyber truck had advertising wrap, and surely was a very good avenue for eye catching advertising.

I don't understand tattoos, not for a second. Yet they are super popular in people much younger than me. Just because I don't get it.... Doesn't mean it's wrong.... The Cyber truck may be the best long term advertising campaign for future vehicle owners. Who knows. Just like tattoos, the Cyber truck styling I may not grasp.... But maybe two generations younger get it.


I may not live long enough to know what TSLA did or didn't accomplish long term with the Cyber truck. Tons of patents, many first time engineering ever in a pickup.

None come to mind, but I am sure there are a list of first time inventions that looked like a flop, and only years later became a very successful item.

I think kids love the Cybertruck because it’s a vehicle that they can easily draw. It looks like it was designed by a 5 year old anyway

 

[RedSpider]

People have a dislike for it due to the ridiculous over-the-top performance that Musk claimed. He flat-out lied. There's no way a competent ceo didn't know the performance stats way before it was delivered. Two months before it was hastily shown off posters of the Cybertruck and Musk were still claiming 500 miles of range. Tesla had to buy back quite a few of them as they had parts fall off, they weren't being shipped with the "included " promised light bar, broke down off road, didn't tow the 14k lbs Musk promised, claimed it could float ( How stupid did Musk think Americans really were?) And on and on. It was a hypemobile that really isn't good at anything truck related.

And I dont really disagree with this, I get it..... except the hatred shouldnt be on the Cybertruck, but on Musk and his mouth that always seems to be four paragraphs ahead of his brain. Should we look at other automotive cases with the same crap-colored glasses and talk about what was promised of them?

How about the car in your signature, the much loved and frequently disparaged Rx-7? Are you familiar with its early history and the claims the Mazda CEO was making about it? It was going to be the sports car of the masses, a car every car guy could afford. Except by the time they stopped selling them in the States, its base price was $37,000 (which would be $81,000 in todays dollars, a good twenty grand over the Cybertruck that 'egomaniacs' and 'suckers' are buying). For a car that was downright lucky to have its engine last 75,000 miles, if that. But hey, no big deal, during the development of the Rx-7 the Mazda CEO acknowledged that the rotary didnt have the lifespan of a typical piston engine (at least he got one thing right), but the car driving public would forgive this (hmmm...wrong) because Mazda dealers would be stockpiling engine cores (wrong) because they are so small, and would be so cheap (VERY WRONG) and dealers would be able to swap out the engine in a single day (haha) and the customer would be out the door with a new engine at a low enough price (WRONG WRONG) that they would be more than forgiving of this quirk (WRONG WRONG WRONG). What a load of crap promises we were sold, right? All this for a car that could barely keep up with 180hp turd-on-wheels Corvettes and Camaros of the era. At least the only thing that could drown out the sound from the killer stereo was the crunching sound of the rust forming behind the rear wheels and all under the rockers on year three if you dared to drive it on a salty, slushy road more than twice.

Before you take any of this personally (and I really hope you are not), I've had three Rx-7's, and I loved every minute with each one of them and I'd have 389 more if my wife hadnt put out a fatwa on my life if I ever brought home another rotary-powered car again. Huh, I wonder why she did that. Lets ponder for a bit........

My point is, you and I both got 'suckered' into buying one of these turds. Yet we bought the car anyway, because we liked it for what it was, a hell of a lot of fun, quirks, warts and all. Were you and I "egomaniacs" or "suckers" for having bought one (or more)? Or maybe we just liked the car for what it is, and dont care what others think of it. Maybe afford Cybertruck people the same consideration? Or should we tar and feather the CEO of Mazda of the time for making a bunch of promises he couldnt keep either? Maybe we should have a twice a month or more whine-a-thon thread on that as well.

I used to be on a first name basis with the CEO of the company that became Verizon wireless. I can tell you firsthand, after accepting an invitation to mirror me in the office for just one day, she was absolutely clueless as to what our engineering team was doing and how badly our capabilities matched what the marketing team was selling. Miles apart. I wouldnt put CEO's, even ones that are as hands on as Musk, up too far on a pedestal about making claims they shouldnt be making.

Dont get me started on your Neon. On the other hand, I actually like Nickleback, so maybe we're even! On the other hand, I'm not disparaging you for having it. Maybe you just like quirky cars as much as I do. And Cybertruck owners.

 

[GON]

And I dont really disagree with this, I get it..... except the hatred shouldnt be on the Cybertruck, but on Musk and his mouth that always seems to be four paragraphs ahead of his brain. Should we look at other automotive cases with the same crap-colored glasses and talk about what was promised of them?

How about the car in your signature, the much loved and frequently disparaged Rx-7? Are you familiar with its early history and the claims the Mazda CEO was making about it? It was going to be the sports car of the masses, a car every car guy could afford. Except by the time they stopped selling them in the States, its base price was $37,000 (which would be $81,000 in todays dollars, a good twenty grand over the Cybertruck that 'egomaniacs' and 'suckers' are buying). For a car that was downright lucky to have its engine last 75,000 miles, if that. But hey, no big deal, during the development of the Rx-7 the Mazda CEO acknowledged that the rotary didnt have the lifespan of a typical piston engine (at least he got one thing right), but the car driving public would forgive this (hmmm...wrong) because Mazda dealers would be stockpiling engine cores (wrong) because they are so small, and would be so cheap (VERY WRONG) and dealers would be able to swap out the engine in a single day (haha) and the customer would be out the door with a new engine at a low enough price (WRONG WRONG) that they would be more than forgiving of this quirk (WRONG WRONG WRONG). What a load of crap promises we were sold, right? All this for a car that could barely keep up with 180hp turd-on-wheels Corvettes and Camaros of the era. At least the only thing that could drown out the sound from the killer stereo was the crunching sound of the rust forming behind the rear wheels and all under the rockers on year three if you dared to drive it on a salty, slushy road more than twice.

Before you take any of this personally (and I really hope you are not), I've had three Rx-7's, and I loved every minute with each one of them and I'd have 389 more if my wife hadnt put out a fatwa on my life if I ever brought home another rotary-powered car again. Huh, I wonder why she did that. Lets ponder for a bit........

My point is, you and I both got 'suckered' into buying one of these turds. Yet we bought the car anyway, because we liked it for what it was, a hell of a lot of fun, quirks, warts and all. Were you and I "egomaniacs" or "suckers" for having bought one (or more)? Or maybe we just liked the car for what it is, and dont care what others think of it. Maybe afford Cybertruck people the same consideration? Or should we tar and feather the CEO of Mazda of the time for making a bunch of promises he couldnt keep either? Maybe we should have a twice a month or more whine-a-thon thread on that as well.

I used to be on a first name basis with the CEO of the company that became Verizon wireless. I can tell you firsthand, after accepting an invitation to mirror me in the office for just one day, she was absolutely clueless as to what our engineering team was doing and how badly our capabilities matched what the marketing team was selling. Miles apart. I wouldnt put CEO's, even ones that are as hands on as Musk, up too far on a pedestal about making claims they shouldnt be making.

Dont get me started on your Neon. On the other hand, I actually like Nickleback, so maybe we're even! On the other hand, I'm not disparaging you for having it. Maybe you just like quirky cars as much as I do. And Cybertruck owners.

Intriguing post, laughed out loud while waiting for a flight at DFW on the fatwa comment- classic.

My life experience is all CEO, general and flag officers, etc are salesmen .that in fact is their job.

The difference with Musk is he is hands on. On Christmas day he is at a data center working, not accepting some lazy IT teams arrogance. Validated reports show Musk slept on the floor at a TSLA factory for weeks, leading the way to address some very challenging problems.

I can assure you the CEOs of Ford, GM, and Stellantis never spent more than a few hours at one of their plants, and their primary mission was photo ops and public relations at the plants..and I suspect the CEOs of the big three were on retreats for Christmas week, not at a data center loading servers into a uhaul truck.

IT guys, for the first time in history hold a lot of unearned and without a doubt unwarranted power. Musk is the first person to ever waive the bull duddy flag on IT workers, and call them out.

Let's think about it. Musk sleeps on the factory floor for weeks, working 20 plus hours a day seven days a week, and yet a group of people ,.many of them likely are sub par performers and consumers and not producers to our great nation, rip on him 24x7?

Kudos to Musk for opening the first major manufacturing facilities in the US that I can recall. Kudos for Musk's leadership, not asking engineers, or assembly line workers to do what he is not willing to do. He is working with them side by side to solve many challenges,.

I simply can't comprehend the hate.

 

[Torrid]

Intriguing post, laughed out loud while waiting for a flight at DFW on the fatwa comment- classic.

My life experience is all CEO, general and flag officers, etc are salesmen .that in fact is their job.

The difference with Musk is he is hands on. On Christmas day he is at a data center working, not accepting some lazy IT teams arrogance. Validated reports show Musk slept on the floor at a TSLA factory for weeks, leading the way to address some very challenging problems.

I can assure you the CEOs of Ford, GM, and Stellantis never spent more than a few hours at one of their plants, and their primary mission was photo ops and public relations at the plants..and I suspect the CEOs of the big three were on retreats for Christmas week, not at a data center loading servers into a uhaul truck.

IT guys, for the first time in history hold a lot of unearned and without a doubt unwarranted power. Musk is the first person to ever waive the bull duddy flag on IT workers, and call them out.

Let's think about it. Musk sleeps on the factory floor for weeks, working 20 plus hours a day seven days a week, and yet a group of people ,.many of them likely are sub par performers and consumers and not producers to our great nation, rip on him 24x7?

Kudos to Musk for opening the first major manufacturing facilities in the US that I can recall. Kudos for Musk's leadership, not asking engineers, or assembly line workers to do what he is not willing to do. He is working with them side by side to solve many challenges,.

I simply can't comprehend the hate.

He's done some awesome things. He's also a wildcard. It's no surprise he gets mixed responses.

 

[97prizm]

Intriguing post, laughed out loud while waiting for a flight at DFW on the fatwa comment- classic.

My life experience is all CEO, general and flag officers, etc are salesmen .that in fact is their job.

The difference with Musk is he is hands on. On Christmas day he is at a data center working, not accepting some lazy IT teams arrogance. Validated reports show Musk slept on the floor at a TSLA factory for weeks, leading the way to address some very challenging problems.

I can assure you the CEOs of Ford, GM, and Stellantis never spent more than a few hours at one of their plants, and their primary mission was photo ops and public relations at the plants..and I suspect the CEOs of the big three were on retreats for Christmas week, not at a data center loading servers into a uhaul truck.

IT guys, for the first time in history hold a lot of unearned and without a doubt unwarranted power. Musk is the first person to ever waive the bull duddy flag on IT workers, and call them out.

Let's think about it. Musk sleeps on the factory floor for weeks, working 20 plus hours a day seven days a week, and yet a group of people ,.many of them likely are sub par performers and consumers and not producers to our great nation, rip on him 24x7?

Kudos to Musk for opening the first major manufacturing facilities in the US that I can recall. Kudos for Musk's leadership, not asking engineers, or assembly line workers to do what he is not willing to do. He is working with them side by side to solve many challenges,.

I simply can't comprehend the hate.

Sleeping on the factory floor isn't as productive as Musk claims. It just causes burnout and exhaustion. I give him props for getting this far, but a few recent articles have highlighted how bad Tesla is losing top engineers and production employees that have been there for 7-10 years. Musk is replacing them with green inexperienced employees that have alot of catching up. You can't drop a new person in and expect the same results. The head of the Cybercab jumped ship a week ago, the head of Optimus a month ago and from reading the top operations guy that knew the factories inside and out is gone. Sure employees come and go, but not like this.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Intriguing post, laughed out loud while waiting for a flight at DFW on the fatwa comment- classic.

My life experience is all CEO, general and flag officers, etc are salesmen .that in fact is their job.

The difference with Musk is he is hands on. On Christmas day he is at a data center working, not accepting some lazy IT teams arrogance. Validated reports show Musk slept on the floor at a TSLA factory for weeks, leading the way to address some very challenging problems.

I can assure you the CEOs of Ford, GM, and Stellantis never spent more than a few hours at one of their plants, and their primary mission was photo ops and public relations at the plants..and I suspect the CEOs of the big three were on retreats for Christmas week, not at a data center loading servers into a uhaul truck.

IT guys, for the first time in history hold a lot of unearned and without a doubt unwarranted power. Musk is the first person to ever waive the bull duddy flag on IT workers, and call them out.

Let's think about it. Musk sleeps on the factory floor for weeks, working 20 plus hours a day seven days a week, and yet a group of people ,.many of them likely are sub par performers and consumers and not producers to our great nation, rip on him 24x7?

Kudos to Musk for opening the first major manufacturing facilities in the US that I can recall. Kudos for Musk's leadership, not asking engineers, or assembly line workers to do what he is not willing to do. He is working with them side by side to solve many challenges,.

I simply can't comprehend the hate.

I've told the story before of the Tesla ERP software. Musk hated SAP (as do I). So expensive, so hard to use, so hard (but necessary) to modify to get what you need. A lousy product, IMO. But ERP is key to manufacturing, especially in material procurement.
I met with then CIO Jay Vijayan to discuss Operation Warp Speed. His team kicked SAP's butt.

By definition, to be better, to effect change, you have to be different. By the way, being different, taking risk, changed my life.

 

[dishdude]

What would you call it when someone takes it upon themselves to be critical of what others choose to drive, by calling them "egomaniacs" for driving their vehicle of choice?

Irony? Jealousy? Hypocrisy?

I'm willing to bet most people participating in this thread that are being critical of this truck could buy one for cash pretty easily.

Find another word, you keep swinging and missing.

 

[grasscutter]

The current cyber truck looks like it was built by an HVAC technician.

 

[2strokeNorthstar]

No clue on trade in but it's funny seeing them on the used lot of places like Subaru, Honda Etc.

 

[GON]

The current cyber truck looks like it was built by an HVAC technician.

With leftover materials from a job site???

 

[alarmguy]

Tesla does it again! I try to stay balanced with all brands but boy Tesla makes it hard to like them!
IN the OP they offered a new base model cybertruck in Feb at $59,999 and said price may increase after FEB 28th/ you had to place a non refundable $250 and expect delivery sometime by Dec 2027!
Good god!!!

BUT IT GETS WORSE!!!
Can you imagine if you were one of those who did order the truck? How would you feel now that after the "special" has ended, they didnt raise the price, they cancelled offering it for sale!! So you left a deposit for a truck that you will get delivery in sometime by DEC 2027 and its not even offered for sale anymore. A base model 2 wheel drive. Its was offered for production for one whole month. Boy those will have a great resale value once you take delivery. (sarcasm)

Got to love to hate this company. Deceptive is an understatement. Im shocked actually.
Who knows, maybe they will offer it again, testing the market but how you can trust anything about this company with no credibility and transparency regarding the CyberTruck since the day is was announced back in 2018??

 

[Vercingetorix]

Anybody have evidence Musk slept on the factory floor? Tesla/Musk lie all the time about everything.

 

[02SE]

I'm willing to bet most people participating in this thread that are being critical of this truck could buy one for cash pretty easily.

Find another word, you keep swinging and missing.

Once again you missed the point.

The point is that the person I quoted often makes judgemental, elitist comments. Such as not shopping in shabby, run down areas.

I find it ironic that he makes those type of comments regularly, and then calls others "egomaniacs".

 

[JeffKeryk]

Anybody have evidence Musk slept on the factory floor? Tesla/Musk lie all the time about everything.

It was all over the news here; tv and SJ Mercury-News. In those days. Tesla was sure to be belly-up any day. And Musk's PayPal fortune was gone; he was broke. Maybe that's one reason he slept on the floor?