Super Tech with Synthetics?
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Good filter, great price. Use with confidence.
been using it 5 time already... awesome
Triple_Se7en
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Anything wrong with spinning on a new Wally World full-flow filter after 3000 miles of a 6000 mile run on Mobil I 5-30 or ESSO XD-3 5-30.... if I can find it anywhere? This will be used on a Chevrolet Colorado P/U 4X4 with the new 3.5 five-cylinder engine. I really got sticker-shocked looking at the Mobil I oil filter prices... also the new valve systems in many new filters... ie... Purolators - don't sit well with me. Thanks in advance!
Keep in mind that when most people say SuperTech or filter B is good they are generally talking about the construction of the filter. There is very little data on how well the filters actually filter in "real life".
A normal UOA (without total particle count) tells you next to nothing about the quality of the oil filter.
A normal UOA (without total particle count) tells you next to nothing about the quality of the oil filter.
It seems counter productive to spend 10 times as much as the product cost to prove that it functions adequately. **** , I guesse I need to spend 50 bucks with every 10 dollar oil change to feel like it is holding up for 5k mile intervals!
I will be running some UOA's in the future but not trending anything more than annual checkups. Otherwise I am defeating the purpose of the low cost high mile oilchange
Now if the oil comes back beaten to a pulp and dirty and the mechanicals look good I may start more trending. How many particle counts have been posted? 1? it seems to me that those who spend more have more at stake to justify that cost. Have at it.
Triple_Se7en
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Yes Schmoe... I did read the Purolator thread yesterday & that disturbed me. I have a Purolator Pure One on my Dodge Minivan & a Purolator Premium Plus on my Chevy S-10. Prior to yesterday, I thought both were free-flow lilters.... just packed tighter/filtered better/improved filament to meet the additional cost.
Yes T-Keith... I'm almost sure the factory-installed AC Delco filter has a similar valve. Hopefully, it wasn't made in Meh-He-Co.
Yes T-Keith... I'm almost sure the factory-installed AC Delco filter has a similar valve. Hopefully, it wasn't made in Meh-He-Co.
Bryanccfshr - it seems to me that those who spend more have more at stake to justify that cost. Have at it.
I think it is more a matter of interest and hobby that couses folks to spend real $$ to find out such things. I personally appreciate their efforts.
I think it is more a matter of interest and hobby that couses folks to spend real $$ to find out such things. I personally appreciate their efforts.
Triple_Se7en
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Yeah Ugly... oops I mean Beautiful... the stuck valve thread!
T-Keith... I'm in left-field on the ADBV. Any concerns or complaints on this design? I'd like to capture all the oil contaminants I can for up-to $6-$7 per filter. If the AC design is trust-worthy & the benefits double a Super Tech, then that's the direction I'll go. Thanks Everyone for your two cents.
T-Keith... I'm in left-field on the ADBV. Any concerns or complaints on this design? I'd like to capture all the oil contaminants I can for up-to $6-$7 per filter. If the AC design is trust-worthy & the benefits double a Super Tech, then that's the direction I'll go. Thanks Everyone for your two cents.
As do I. I am having as left brain -vs- right brain struggle at this point.quote:
Originally posted by Ugly3:
Bryanccfshr - it seems to me that those who spend more have more at stake to justify that cost. Have at it.
I think it is more a matter of interest and hobby that couses folks to spend real $$ to find out such things. I personally appreciate their efforts.
Thats a great question. I keep asking myself the same question because I have some st3600 for my ranger in my shed. I keep telling myself that it would not be a good decision to use them with mobil 1 at a 6 month 6000mile OCI. What does everyone think. It is ok? I want the best for my truck but I think the supertech filters are a great filter. I don't know how they would stand up to the test of synthetics at this interval.
My thoughts on the subject are as follows:
Most folks here on BITOG feel ST filters are well constructed and generally do a fine job. Some feel the ST filter may be the best value filter available.
The problem is that the folks are using UOA reports (without particle counts) to determine the effectivness of an oil filter. From what I read a UOA without particle count will tell you next to nothing about the effectivness of an oil filter. So all oil filters seem to do just fine according to an typical UOA.
As an extreme Bob (as in BITOG) ran several thousand miles with no oil filter and his UOA indicated excellent results. Some of us came to the conclusion that the oil filter really doesn't do anything and is possibly unnecessary.
Based on testing (media examination, media flow rate, etc) the ST seems to be a decent filter. Not the best filter in the world but a decent filter. I have seen no data on ST filter real world performance (UOAs with paticle count).
My conclusion is that the ST filter is constructed reasonably well, filters near the middle of the pack, and would probably do an adequate job for 6,000 miles with most any motor oil.
There are lots of people running with sT filters and reporting few if any problems (but how would they know?). My Granddaughter has run 130,000 miles on Wal*Mart 5w30 dino and ST filters changed every 4,000 to 5,000 miles. Oil comes out reasonably clear, little usage, no complaints.
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