Sprinco and EFK Fire Dragon

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Any thoughts or experience either way with Sprinco recoil reducer and/or EFK Fire Dragon dual action buffer spring system?
 
If you want to reduce recoil, the most proven way is to add weight. As a bonus, you can add weight where you want it, so you can improve the static and dynamic balance of the rifle. (adding weight above the bore axis offsets the weight below and will make a rifle recoil straight back, giving superb follow up speed and eliminating muzzle flip).

An AR has two forms of recoil. The primary source if the initial firing event. Then, after the bullet has left the barrel, you have the reciprocating cycle of the action.

Adding weight reduces both recoil sources. Fiddling with different recoil setups primarily helps the secondary (reciprocating) recoil because the extra weight is pretty mild.


I've converted almost all my small frame rifles to A5 setups with Tubb 42 coil flat wound spring. The Tubb spring is affordable, superbly made, and gives a very smooth uniform stroke while mostly eliminating the "sproing" you get with regular round wound springs. The A5 setup lets you dial in weights across a broad range from H0 to H5.


If you're on a budget, the first and easy thing to do is do the Tubb 42 coil flatwound and a regular H2 carbine buffer (assuming a carbine receiver extension). See if that doesn't get you something you appreciate and only costs you about $50 total.
 
An effective brake is pretty high up that list too.
Yes, but they vary widely in recoil reduction and to the extent they induce a lot of blast.

I use a JP Tank brake on my AR10-style rifle. It's not the most effective at recoil reduction, but it's incredible at keeping you on target, which was the reason I bought it. It's also not particularly blasty because it's not pushing gas back to you so much as out the sides.

Brakes or comps can be good for shooting games and range fun. Not so much in the woods. Many types of matches ban them outright because of the blast.

It really depends on what you want to use the rifle for. Weight is the one countermeasure that always works and is rarely limited (F class has max weights, for example).
 
My brake is just an attachment method for my suppressor. It does add weight and heat, but it's better for field shooting.
 
Oh I have. I shoot competitively and having a flat shooting gun is pretty important. With an AR, I'm running plugs and electronic muffs, so as long as it's not too obnoxious, the added noise doesn't bother me.
 
Thanks all who have replied so far, here is more detail, perhaps to continue the conversation:

The reason why I ask about these two devices is I recently acquired a very lightly used SIG P220 and one of those devices was included in the case and one was already installed in the pistol. I removed it and replaced it with the original spring and guide, partly because I know nothing about these devices, and partly because I never had a problem with previous experience of the same model. Recoil was never a problem in any way.

But now recognizing that such things exist I'm wondering about safety, reliability, and any possible advantage.

I get it about re-acquiring a target faster, thanks to recommendations from some of the regular participants here a few years ago I went to reduced recoil loads in the 12 gauge slide and it made a noticeable difference. Not sure it's something I care about for the .45, and if there is any question whatsoever about safety, reliability, or damage to the firearm, I would not even consider using these devices.

Thoughts?
 
Thanks all who have replied so far, here is more detail, perhaps to continue the conversation:

The reason why I ask about these two devices is I recently acquired a very lightly used SIG P220 and one of those devices was included in the case and one was already installed in the pistol. I removed it and replaced it with the original spring and guide, partly because I know nothing about these devices, and partly because I never had a problem with previous experience of the same model. Recoil was never a problem in any way.

But now recognizing that such things exist I'm wondering about safety, reliability, and any possible advantage.

I get it about re-acquiring a target faster, thanks to recommendations from some of the regular participants here a few years ago I went to reduced recoil loads in the 12 gauge slide and it made a noticeable difference. Not sure it's something I care about for the .45, and if there is any question whatsoever about safety, reliability, or damage to the firearm, I would not even consider using these devices.

Thoughts?
I think you are on the right track. I'm an instructor and been through a bunch of schools and stuff. For a self-defense gun I run my rifles and pistols basically stock. I might change the sights, but don't mess with triggers, recoil springs and add ons.

I have plenty of "fun" guns that I play with various aftermarket stuff, triggers, safeties, and recoil components. Hohn has some sage advice above.
 
I think you are on the right track. I'm an instructor and been through a bunch of schools and stuff. For a self-defense gun I run my rifles and pistols basically stock. I might change the sights, but don't mess with triggers, recoil springs and add ons.

I have plenty of "fun" guns that I play with various aftermarket stuff, triggers, safeties, and recoil components. Hohn has some sage advice above.
Thank you!
 
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