spot on, harbor freight

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Yeah that Is pretty bad. But It can happen with any product. But I agree quality control should have been better. I have some harbor freight tools, I get certain items from there and some items I will not buy from there.

like gman2304 said it is hit and miss. I have some 1/2 inch sockets that are great, also have the reciprocating saw which was a fantastic deal for 20 dollars with coupon using good blades (not the HF blades) it cuts everything. I will not use their saw blades of any kind, for those i stick to milwaukee, bosch and avanti.
 
Some of their stuff is definitely "buyer beware". Other items are the same as lower-end items at HD/Lowes except with half the markup. There is definitely a place for HF tools, just like there is a place for Snappy. After ending up with a fair number of HF tools, they provide generally decent service for the light and intermittent use they see wrenching on my own stuff.
 
I buy small hand tools for around the home. Since my tools have legs and they walk off a few times a year, cheap is good for me...I'm not removing head bolts off a rusted down 49 Ford or removing cylinders from a WW2 recip engines...lol. My ego is now in a lower range, budgets budgets..
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Harbor freight is great but they have different lines of quality. I recently bought a 21 piece tap and die set for $7.99 and got 24 free batteries. It says right on the package for soft metals like aluminum and brass only. I was working on some aluminum and they worked fine. It wouldn't surprise if someone would do a review and say what junk harbor freights $8 tap set is because it broke while cutting steel, but not say they exceeded it specs. And a bunch would agree. For casual use Harbor Freight is a bargain. Never had a problem with their stuff, but I know when to use a higher quality tool if needed.
 
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
That's about the quality one would expect from Harbor Freight. It's always surprising that people will actually accept that level of quality. Of course, it's also surprising that anyone would be shopping there in the first place.


Hit or miss but they take returns.
 
Originally Posted By: spasm3
Most things at HF i don't care for at all. There is a place for some things they sell. For example, i lift a few engines , not many so i needed an engine lift. There were no name brand ones on craigslist, a commercial one is just too expensive , so the HF shop crane (i think i paid $159 years ago) has done what i needed. Another example. I was installing flooring in my down stairs and i needed to trip the moulding on several doorways. The HF multitool was $19 bucks , i only needed it for this one job, so spending over $100 for a name brand one plus the blades was not worth it.

So for some one-off jobs there is a place for SOME of their tools. the sockets and what not i don't care for at all. But if its something you can't get local like and engine lift or some odd one use tool , i shop for that.


Exactly. It's easy to say "buy the best tools you can afford" but so many things are used infrequently, that it's better to go with low expectations and something cheap. Besides, for a lot of electrical things, if they aren't defective out of the box, they go on and give you good service.
 
Originally Posted By: Chris142
There are plenty of pics of USA made tools with simmiliar problems on garage journal

Exactly. I've seen examples of worse quality on almost every brand.
 
Some of their stuff is ok. Some is just cheap junk in my opinion. Their quality is not professional grade. When I look at some old tools I see some real quality.

I think that many peoples expectation of quality and craftmanship has been lowered in recent years.
 
I've ruptured a HF impact socket trying to loosen an overtorqued lug by hand with a breaker bar.

I've also sheared a 1/2 to 3/8 Craftsman socket adapter clean off by hand.

Both were replaced no questions asked.

The newer version HF impact socket doesn't have quite as good tolerances as the old, but the walls are thicker.

I don't think the Craftsman tools of today are of the same quality as in the past. But I'm sure when Sears finally goes under, someone will pick up the brand. There have already been rumors about the sale of Craftsman and Kenmore.
 
My newer Craftsman tools are not the quality of the old ones that were replaced under warranty.
 
I have a set of HF 3/8 sockets and have used my 1/2 drive IR impact with reducer, and have yet broke a socket.
 
I don't buy much at HF, other than consumables, rarely-used tools and toolbox (HF44)... However I'm pretty impressed with some of their tools. They've really stepped up their game. Their Pittsburg Pro ratchets... like a SO dual 80 at 1/6 the price and 90% the quality. I have both in my toolbox and the Pittsburg pros are a real good bang for buck (better than Cman and other imports). A better ratchet, IMHO, is going to cost you a LOT more.

Pittsburg Pro impacts are highly rated, I've used a few without issue. I have two nail guns from them that remodeled my house and still are working.

Read on GarageJournal, there's certainly a love/hate relationship with HF. I'd rather support US products, but I can't deny that some stuff from HF is actually good and well priced. My toolbox is a mix of SO, CMan, SK, Proto, Wright, Knipex, etc...
 
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I have bought several tools at HF. I know and understand they may not be the greatest. I'm ok with that. If I want a higher quality I go looking elsewhere. I know there is a lot of China stuff there. Now what does frustrate me is if I go looking for the USA stuff it is nearly impossible to find some days. Especially in replacement car parts. Back to HF though. I like them and go there quite often.
 
Originally Posted By: jimbrewer
Originally Posted By: spasm3
Most things at HF i don't care for at all. There is a place for some things they sell. For example, i lift a few engines , not many so i needed an engine lift. There were no name brand ones on craigslist, a commercial one is just too expensive , so the HF shop crane (i think i paid $159 years ago) has done what i needed. Another example. I was installing flooring in my down stairs and i needed to trip the moulding on several doorways. The HF multitool was $19 bucks , i only needed it for this one job, so spending over $100 for a name brand one plus the blades was not worth it.

So for some one-off jobs there is a place for SOME of their tools. the sockets and what not i don't care for at all. But if its something you can't get local like and engine lift or some odd one use tool , i shop for that.


Exactly. It's easy to say "buy the best tools you can afford" but so many things are used infrequently, that it's better to go with low expectations and something cheap. Besides, for a lot of electrical things, if they aren't defective out of the box, they go on and give you good service.


A friend of mine often says "A poor man can only afford to buy the very best of tools, as he can only afford to buy them once." I find this true for tools that will be used many times in my life. I often admire the craftsmanship of a fine tool, and consider the care that the tool designer and assemblers had to have put into it. These tools become very dear to me. If one were lost or stolen, or if I broke one, it would make me sad. Every time I did a job where I could have used it, I would again be saddened by the memory of not having my trusty tool to use. I anticipate a day when I will be able to pass them on to a grandchild. Some day when my grandson grows up, he may show these tools to a friend, who will comment that he is so fortunate to have such a beautiful tool. These tools came from Sears. Or Woodcraft. Or Lowes. None of these tools come from Harbor Freight.

I have other tools that are nothing more than a utility. They are not tools that I use often, as I enjoy a very nice tool for those. Instead, these are tools that are needed for a job, but I may use only on rare occasion. They are not a fine instrument, but only a means to an end. If one were to be lost or stolen, or break I would have no remorse, except for the inconvenience caused by being delayed on the task at hand, and having to get a replacement. Oh, and a little anger at myself for buying such a cheap piece of [censored] instead of something that I wouldn't have to replace later. I anticipate that when I die, such tools will not end up in the shop of a son or grandchild, but rather, they will be sold off at a garage sale for pennies on the dollar. Or they may end up in the landfill or at the recycle center. These tools come from Harbor Freight.
 
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In today's world more likely the grandson would hock them for 5$ on craiglist unfortunately.
(in general not saying anything personally about you or your family)

HF has some gems and some trash.

Avoid the trash.. buy the gems.


Example they have a belt driven air compressor that is great.. and a cheapo oilless one that is total trash.

The steel floor jacks are excellent.

Most of the pittsburg pro tools are the same price as the POS brand ones at homedepot/lowes but better.

The black extreme duty nitrile gloves are good too. 9mil 10$/50gloves
 
My HF impact socket sets bought around 1999 have been great. On the other hand the heat gun went up in smoke on the second use. I generally keep to things which don't have moving parts when shopping HF.
 
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