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This material can be eliminted for EP lubrication because pressure destroys this particle, this material congeals, and fails to remain intact on the rubbing surface.


What is it?
 
Never, never let your Twinkie congeal!
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How many vote for Mystic's answer?
 
Twinkies and Veelveta weren't options.


PTFE does gel and should never be used as an EP additive since it shears.

In addition, no one has ever proven that PTFE in particulate form adheres to metal.

PTFE is good as a grease thickener and reduces gear train noise in gear lubes.
 
I found this in an old post by the lube engineer for MPC (formerly) and Steel Shield Tech (currently) and just thought I would add it:
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Also, it is NOT the PTFE (chemical name: poly-tetra fluoro ethylene, or more commonly known as "Teflon" micro-powder) that bonds to the metal and reduces wear, as you say. PTFE has a hard enough time staying on frying pans and cookware, when the surfaces have been properly prepared by grit-blasting and manganese phosphate substrate prep-ing, prior to the application and baking.
PTFE will NOT bond to the surface, in a synthetic polymer-paste, but will act as a medium and thixotropy agent, buffering the contact areas of metal parts. PTFE is NOT the only halogenated substance present in the formula, as analysis and their load carrying capacity proves. PTFE cannot withstand extreme pressures over 150 psi, without rupturing and causing a deformation to the polymeric chain (kind of like squishing the wee balls of "plastic" into flat sludgy pieces). Aw, come on....what did you think PTFE was made of....Titanium alloy?....nope....its a fluorine polymer (plastic), whose formula looks like this:
CF2-CF2-CF2-(infinitely)
One carbon, attached to 2 fluorine atoms, over and over.
 
PTFE as I learned 30 years ago from a NASA then CVX engineer will as he said "not wet out on oily metal" and "will not impregenate or fill and micro surfaces" meaning that as a lube inhancer it is not good, for a paste aniti sieze grease but not oils.

also as he said "chunks" of plastic he much perfered as a soild lube moly disulfide.

bruce
 
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Aw, come on....what did you think PTFE was made of....Titanium alloy?.


Well, it may not be Titanium alloy, but it beats the tar out of Hastelloy extrusion screws at temps of 550F+. Below that, you may be able to squish it through the dies at some unholy pressure...but it's mostly a solid at that point. I would not want it in an engine in any size that would breach the oil film. I would think that it would gouge the heck out of the soft bearing surfaces. Now if you can get the oil to 550F ..then it should work out fine.
 
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Now if you can get the oil to 550F ..then it should work out fine.

My understanding is that PTFE starts to degrade (all be it slowly) above 600F. That would have me worried in the piston areas that may be exposed to the resulting Hydrofluoric acid.
 
FEP, another Teflon compound, is barely liquid @ 550F. It may surely degrade at 600F for all I know. I DO know the stuff is very hard on even the most durable alloys in extrusion.
 
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