Simply amazed at ATF fluid.

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Originally Posted By: fmia
Hmm well my thinking was since maxlife is a dex merc and lubeguard says to use platinum to convert to mazda5



Not a good idea. Too much FM and you're going to go down the "slipping" slope.
 
Haven't noticed it slipped yet.been a couple weeks. Is that always something you notice when at slips
 
I was just thinking, I did this same thing with amsoil and platinum (ya I know amsoil doesn't need help) because I worried the mv fluid might know really satisfy the fnr5 requirement and I really didn't know ja k about lubgard yet anyway I went over 30k so far on that Mazda and no problem and did the same on this fusion except with valvaline syn multy import and no problems. So I think I'm good. If amsoil and all it's additives didn't slip i cant see maxlife doing it
 
Originally Posted By: fmia
Haven't noticed it slipped yet.been a couple weeks. Is that always something you notice when at slips


Slipping is certainly a feeling that you will notice!
But, will your tranny start to slip?...IDK for a fact that your's will slip for certain!
The chances are that it may!

You may be having good success by using LG with an ATF that is already FM'd but, it's not needed!
 
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I see well ill keep close attention to it. Confused why lubgard says platinum makes dex6/mercv behave like m5 on their conversion chart but u guys say not maxlife. Ofcourse when i called valvoline they insisted maxlife was good for m5 application but isn't on bottle.anyway is working so far. If I feel even the slighted slip ill reflush.
 
Here are some things to consider:

It is possible Valvoline has a spectrum of friction modifier chemistries such that it does cover m5 friction materials.

I would ask Valvoline if they had actually "tested" MaxLife in an m5 to support their claim that it covers m5.

If you suspect varnishing in your tranny, then LubeGard Red is the recommended additive. Delayed shifts or erratic shifts might indicate some varnishing.

Delayed shifts or erratic shifts could also indicates indicate wear in the clutch assembly or valving, or even seal leakage (worn seals).

If your transmission seems to work with the OEM or MaxLife fluids, I see no reason to add ANY additive, especially one that would increase slippage.

Increased slippage causes localized heating which wears the clutch pack and oxidizes the oil.
 
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Good info molakulee thanks. Yes valvoline does claim they have tested in m5 app. I'll keep an eye on it and if all syays well ill do my drain and fill with maxlife and no LG in 15k and15k after that ill flush and decided if I wanna do just max life or what
 
Very good! I have often wondered if I could use MaxLife ATF in the Mazda3 in my signature which does require Mazda MV. I've been using Castrol IMV ATF but, now my stash of IMV is gone and it's time to move on to another ATF. I will try ML.
 
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Originally Posted By: fmia
I just talked to lubegard Tec said platinum will not over modify maxlife



A so-called "tech" is a phone answerer employed by the company to keep and increase sales.

Unless he is a transmission lube chemist I doubt he would know.

There is no reason to use a "conversion" fluid.
 
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Soon Ill try maxlife alone and see. But ford and Mazda both insist that anything not speced mazda5 is bad. Merc v is real close but has a lower cold flow viscosity. There in lies the problem according to ford and Mazda. I do believe lubgard helps retain viscosity though I dunno maxlife needs to be helped there. I might call back and ask a tech a question I know the answer to for sure and see if they steer me in the wrong direction for the sake of sales.
 
Originally Posted By: fmia
Soon Ill try maxlife alone and see. But ford and Mazda both insist that anything not speced mazda5 is bad. Merc v is real close but has a lower cold flow viscosity. There in lies the problem according to ford and Mazda. I do believe lubgard helps retain viscosity though I dunno maxlife needs to be helped there. I might call back and ask a tech a question I know the answer to for sure and see if they steer me in the wrong direction for the sake of sales.


Listen to Molakule. Why chance it with MaxLife when there are plenty of other fluids that do meet Mazda specs?
 
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Originally Posted By: fmia
Soon Ill try maxlife alone and see. But ford and Mazda both insist that anything not speced mazda5 is bad. Merc v is real close but has a lower cold flow viscosity. There in lies the problem according to ford and Mazda. I do believe lubgard helps retain viscosity though I dunno maxlife needs to be helped there. I might call back and ask a tech a question I know the answer to for sure and see if they steer me in the wrong direction for the sake of sales.


Listen to Molakule. Why chance it with MaxLife when there are plenty of other fluids that do meet Mazda specs?


I know you're speaking to fmia but, isn't Molakule refering to LubeGard, and NOT about MaxLife ATF?...I may not have understood Molakule's reply!
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I think MolaKule (who knows more than the rest of us put together) was saying you can't convert one ATF to another spec with just an additive.

People get away with ATF substitutions all the time, except when they don't get away with it. It's uncharted territory and no one can tell you with absolute certainty if it will shorten your transmission life or solve problems.

I do know one thing, a cheaper ATF + an additive adds up to a very similar price to using OEM fluid.
 
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Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Originally Posted By: fmia
Soon Ill try maxlife alone and see. But ford and Mazda both insist that anything not speced mazda5 is bad. Merc v is real close but has a lower cold flow viscosity. There in lies the problem according to ford and Mazda. I do believe lubgard helps retain viscosity though I dunno maxlife needs to be helped there. I might call back and ask a tech a question I know the answer to for sure and see if they steer me in the wrong direction for the sake of sales.


Listen to Molakule. Why chance it with MaxLife when there are plenty of other fluids that do meet Mazda specs?


I know you're speaking to fmia but, isn't Molakule refering to LubeGard, and NOT about MaxLife ATF?...I may not have understood Molakule's reply!
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Yes, thanks, I was referring to LubeGard "conversion" fluids, not MaxLife.

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If your transmission seems to work with the OEM or MaxLife fluids, I see no reason to add ANY additive, especially one that would increase slippage. [Referring to conversion fluids].

Increased slippage causes localized heating which wears the clutch pack and oxidizes the oil.
 
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