Reuseable Oil Filters

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I saw this last weekend on one of the PowerBlock shows on TNN. It's a reusable oil filter, here's the website;
http://www.KandPengineering.com/

Since then, I've found a couple other sites/companies that make similar types of filters. Was wondering if anyone had any experience with these? Also, would like opinions.

Thanks,
Neil
 
The holes in the material are 35 microns, which is way too big to stop the most harmful particles. By comparison, a PureOne filter is 99.9% efficient at 20 microns.
 
I've never seen a particle count done to verify their efficiency. I'm skeptical of their efficiency but have not done a great deal of research.
 
Looks cool. But I'm skeptical. Interested to hear what others think, especially those using, have used, or have objective/experience-based knowledge.
 
I've read the website... didn't see anything that quoted a micron rating. Where did you come up with the 35 micron number? Does that have something to do with the material they're using or the ASTMF316 rating? ????

Inquiring minds what to know!

Thanks,
Neil
 
Originally Posted By: AuthorEditor
a PureOne filter is 99.9% efficient at 20 microns.


Not all of them. I believe the size my vehicles use (i.e. PL14610) is 99.9% efficient at 40 microns.
 
It's the last statement on the front page that got my attention. On my two Hondas you would never know.

High Performance Stainless Steel Micronic Oil Filters
Cleanable and Reusable
Proven Technology
Superior Filtration
Magnetic Prefiltering
High Flow Rate
Easy Filter Element Inspection
Unaffected by Water, Heat & Pressure
Environmentally Friendly
Meets/exceeds manufacturers specifications
Looks Trick!
 
This statement is on their FAQ page:

4) How does this type of filtration compare to paper oil filters?

We use ASTMF316 testing procedures which eliminate many of the user variables found in the SAE procedures. Basically, the filter media is pressurized from one side, and when the media starts passing particles, that is the micron rating. We sent filter media from several common brands of paper filters to the lab to be run through the ASTM test. We sent the media to the lab with no names, just numbers for identification so they wouldn't have any idea what brand filter they were testing. The results for the paper filters ranged from 48 microns for the best filter to over 300 microns for the worst filter. Our tests were right in line with other testing results we have researched that have paper media filters passing particles anywhere between 50 and 90 microns. What does this mean? Paper filters are rated on averages, percentages of efficiency (also known as beta ratios) and multiple passes, so a 10 micron rated paper filter (as advertised on the packaging) may be letting particles 50 microns and larger through. The medical grade stainless steel cloth that we use is consistent across the entire media surface and is rated at 35 microns, meaning nothing larger than 35 microns should pass through the material. The bottom line is we meet or exceed the filtration performance of OEM filters, eliminating any warranty issues.
 
$139 for their part # S1 which is the one that fits my vehicles. Assuming I pay $5 for conventional spin-on filters and run 6K mile OCIs, I wouldn't break even on cost until 168K miles.
 
Originally Posted By: AuthorEditor
The holes in the material are 35 microns, which is way too big to stop the most harmful particles. By comparison, a PureOne filter is 99.9% efficient at 20 microns.


All the engine damage is done by that .1%. I hate it when they try to make marketing sound scientific or concrete.
 
Let's put it this way. Wouldn't every auto manufacturer put a reusable oil filter on as standard equipment if they could boast of it and still get acceptable results? At least you would think maybe the premium manufacturers would do this when owners wouldn't blink at paying $135 more for a "premium" filter. Is there even one manufacturer that either supplies these OEM or offers them as an option?
 
Originally Posted By: db500
Originally Posted By: AuthorEditor
The holes in the material are 35 microns, which is way too big to stop the most harmful particles. By comparison, a PureOne filter is 99.9% efficient at 20 microns.


All the engine damage is done by that .1%. I hate it when they try to make marketing sound scientific or concrete.


Which is way better than the typical filter having 4-5% at 20 and increasing exponentially below 20 microns.
 
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Originally Posted By: db500
Originally Posted By: AuthorEditor
The holes in the material are 35 microns, which is way too big to stop the most harmful particles. By comparison, a PureOne filter is 99.9% efficient at 20 microns.


All the engine damage is done by that .1%. I hate it when they try to make marketing sound scientific or concrete.


Which is way better than the typical filter having 4-5% at 20 and increasing exponentially below 20 microns.



Yet most engine damages are done from stuff other than an oil filter can control (head gasket, etc).
 
Originally Posted By: AuthorEditor
Let's put it this way. Wouldn't every auto manufacturer put a reusable oil filter on as standard equipment if they could boast of it and still get acceptable results? At least you would think maybe the premium manufacturers would do this when owners wouldn't blink at paying $135 more for a "premium" filter. Is there even one manufacturer that either supplies these OEM or offers them as an option?


Shop labor to clean the filter would cost more than a new throw away filter. The motoring public wouldn't like that.
 
I'm using a lifetime oil filter made by www.PurePower.comI must admit that there is a difference in pickup when I installed this filter.As time goes on I will monitor how this filter really filters by blackstone when i get my oil checked.To me it was either a CAI kit or this.I also added a aFe Proguard-7 air filter and I like the results.I suggest you contact the company and pose your questions to them.Joe
 
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This filter has made my Jeep(Hemi)more responsive.I'll be keeping an eye on any oil testing that I do.If it works well it stays on.if it fails to live up to what it claims then I have a expensive paper weight then I'll go back to my Mobil- 1/K%N filters.Joe
 
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