I always wondered what Redline Shockproof was supposed to be used in. Is it a fluid for differntials, gearboxes, straight cut race gearboxes, or transaxles? Is it safe with syncros and would it be useful in a street/track car?
Redline Shockproof, what is it used in?
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amazing, I just got off the phone from the Oz Redline importer (he says he talks to Roy Howell about three times a week) and we were discussing exactly this (amongst other things).
They claim basically everywhere you suggested.
Apparently if you use it with a clutch pack LSD you will get slight chatter/stick-slip at low speed. If you use any friction modifier to help, obviously it could affect synchro performance, but, he said the chatter will return in a few months. Something to do with the chemistry. This doesn't happen with their conventional oils. He claims, unless the plates are highly shimmed up, the chatter is very little, and greatly improves LSD performance overall.
They claim it is fine with synchro's and a number of WRX guys are supposedly using it here, to improve synchro performance, as well as in dog box conversions. Apparently also used in Land Rover transfer cases to negate input spline wear.
Rick.
They claim basically everywhere you suggested.
Apparently if you use it with a clutch pack LSD you will get slight chatter/stick-slip at low speed. If you use any friction modifier to help, obviously it could affect synchro performance, but, he said the chatter will return in a few months. Something to do with the chemistry. This doesn't happen with their conventional oils. He claims, unless the plates are highly shimmed up, the chatter is very little, and greatly improves LSD performance overall.
They claim it is fine with synchro's and a number of WRX guys are supposedly using it here, to improve synchro performance, as well as in dog box conversions. Apparently also used in Land Rover transfer cases to negate input spline wear.
Rick.
So it is better under race condition than say MT-90, then why even have MT-90? I'm assuming it would work well with a high friction/high heat Helical(Torsen) differential/transasxle.
hmmm problem applications huh. I was wondering how it would work in Toyota C56 and C60 transaxles. These have been known to destroy syncros with hard shifting and break at elevated torque levels. They require a 75w-90 GL4 or GL5 fluid, but I think shockproof comes in one of those weights, correct?
I believe it about the 140wt on the lightweight shockproof. When I filled my transfer case (.8qts) it took FOREVER. That stuff oozes slower than stinking glaciers move.
I'd love to try NEO RHD, but @ $60/gal on sale... my wallet runs in fear.
I have used it with good results. However, we noticed no appreciable difference when using Shell Spirax HD.
This is the preferred lubricant for early GM 4-Speeds like the Muncie and Warner T-10.
I agree, the viscosity is quite heavy.
Interesting...I have seen Top Fuel Funny Cars in my friend's shop putting 2000 horspower to the rear axle with Kendall Petroleum-Based 85w140...Robert
This is the preferred lubricant for early GM 4-Speeds like the Muncie and Warner T-10.
I agree, the viscosity is quite heavy.
Interesting...I have seen Top Fuel Funny Cars in my friend's shop putting 2000 horspower to the rear axle with Kendall Petroleum-Based 85w140...Robert
good point, although it could get pretty warm with 2000+ HP going through it.
Neo's RHD was a revelation in road racing in the late eighties as open wheelers (F1, Champ Car, F3000) and Sports Cars were able to go up to a season on a Crown Wheel and Pinion instead of replacing every meeting. From what I've been told, the mineral based heavy duty fluids from the likes of Shell, Castrol and smaller specialist blenders like SWEPCO were able to take the loads fine with their excellent add packs, but over an extended period of heat and abuse, particularly in the 12 and 24 hour sports car races, they started to degrade, some much faster than others.
Some Nissan Sentra SpecV owners use Red Line's lightweight shockproof oil in their 6-speed transmissions ... a notoriously picky, grunchy transmission with (claimed) success.
Me? I'm sticking with SpecForm MTL-P.
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Me? I'm sticking with SpecForm MTL-P.
--- Bror Jace
I think that the Shoc Proof is almost all calcium based.
I used Shockproof lite in my Sentra SR20 car and it made the transmission feel like butter and no missed shifts. Of course, poly shifter bushings helped a big too
but that shockproof is good stuff. I am going to use it in my FWD Mazda 626 V6 5spd asap.
RedLine SuperLight Shockproof = 75w-90
Lightweight Shockproof = 75w-140
Heavy Shockproof = 75w-250
Just checked the shelf
Also, 1qt Superlight and 1qt MTL + heat = greenish gearbox oil.
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Lightweight Shockproof = 75w-140
Heavy Shockproof = 75w-250
Just checked the shelf
Also, 1qt Superlight and 1qt MTL + heat = greenish gearbox oil.
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