Redline 5W-30 OCI

[tobysoph]

I have recently purchased some Redline 5w30, 36 qts, (which cost a good deal less than Mobil 1 5w30) to use in my 2006 Corolla 1.8 manual and intend to change every 6000 miles or 6 months which is Toyota recommendation. The car does not see much traffic at all and rarely runs of less than 15 miles. I do about 12000 miles per year. I have read that this oil is not extended drain so do you agree that my OCI schedule is OK?
Roger
Toyota Kluger 2005 (Highlander AWD V6) 80K miles Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5w30 Amsoil SVG 75W-90
Toyota Corolla 2006 84K miles Mobil 1 5w30 Redline MT90

 

[Rand]

I dont know much about engines available in Australia but if thats not a turbo engine it should be fine.

Not extended drain oil usually means <10000 miles or so in most applications.

 

[bigjl]

There is info in another part of the forum that indicates Redline 0w30 lost almost all it's TBN in just over 6k in a petrol 2007 Volvo V70 2.4 non turbo.

It is considered a "boutique oil" in the UK, for use by serious petrolheads, perhaps the sacrifice for performance is longevity?

Though I would run any half decent oil to 6k in a petrol car used on longer runs.

And that is before I even knew that Bitog and used oil analysis existed.

I run the wifes car on 9k miles changes with an annual total of 18k miles, with no UOA, but with Mobil 1 0w40 TD and now New Life.

I take it oil is as expensive as it is in the UK in Aus? I just wish they did FAR in the UK.

 

[JHZR2]

Not sure I see a reason to do that short of an OCI on that oil with that use profile. Redline is expensive, even if had for less than M1.

I'd try to push for 1 yr OCIs but verify by UOA.

 

[bigjl]

The other thread did indeed have a used oil analysis performed.

The TBN had dropped below 1.

Purely from what I have learned from the forum that is regarded as low by Blackstone.

Redline requested it be repeated but it came back below 1 again.

The people that use Redline products in the UK are the type of owners that will happily buy the best oils and change them at 3 or 4000 miles, with ROI not the most important criteria but rather performance.

 

[jkhawaii]

I used to run only redline. I could only get 6,000 miles out of it. the oil is very shear stable, but may not be a good long drain oil. try doing a oil analysis at 5,000

 

[jkhawaii]

Nothing seems to Shear Redline though! it stays in grade!

 

[HTSS_TR]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Not sure I see a reason to do that short of an OCI on that oil with that use profile. Redline is expensive, even if had for less than M1.

I'd try to push for 1 yr OCIs but verify by UOA.

I agree. Do UOA at 6k miles without draining the oil to see if it can be extended to 10-12k miles.

 

[dparm]

I'd aim for 8-9k and see what the oil looks like. Your short-trips will undoubtedly stress the oil a bit more.

 

[CATERHAM]

Just as a point of interest in Canada your Corolla has been back spec'd to run the very light Toyota 0W-20.

I'm glad you got a very good deal on the Red Line 5w30 but with it's HTHSV of 3.8cP and lowish 162 VI this 40wt oil (yes it is effectively a 40wt) is way heavier than Mobil 1 5w30 and even heavier than Mobil 1 0W-40 at all temperatures.
If you were in NA or Europe I'd suggest cutting the oil at least 50/50 with a light 0W-20 to produce at least a true 30wt oil.
But since you don't have much in the way of 0W/5W-20 oils in OZ I would just use your Red Line score as an additive to bolster any inexpensive A1/B1, A5/B5 0W/5w30 oil you can get.
Red Line is often used as an additive due to it's high moly, ZDDP, ester and VII free chemistry.
One and no more than two quarts substituted to something lighter would make the best use of this product.

 

[fdcg27]

To answer the question you asked, I'm sure that this oil will be fine for 6K/6 mos.
A number of Red Line used oil analysis here show that it is not a long drain oil, and it doesn't seem to provide for very low wear either, although some would say that the apparently higher wear in a Red Line UOA is merely an artifact of the oil's ester content cleaning up what other oils have left behind.
Anyway, good score on the oil, and I think that your planned change interval will be just fine.

 

[A_Harman]

I have run Red Line 5w30 in my Camaro for 7400 miles, and was down to a TBN of 2.35, which is still usable, but it's getting close to needing a change. You could probably go 8k on Redline.

 

[Jeff_in_VABch]

Originally Posted By: tobysoph
...intend to change every 6000 miles or 6 months which is Toyota recommendation. The car does not see much traffic at all and rarely runs of less than 15 miles. I do about 12000 miles per year. I have read that this oil is not extended drain so do you agree that my OCI schedule is OK?
Roger


I have several vehicles which run exclusively Red Line 5W30. I have been changing them at 5 to 6K mile intervals which pretty much coincides with the OLM.

I would say 6k miles or 6 months would be easily achievable with a robust oil like Red Line (or any modern name brand oil), even though it is not advertised as a long drain oil.

Red Line 5W30 is a nice high viscosity product, but does it ever get cold in AU?

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: dparm
I'd aim for 8-9k and see what the oil looks like. Your short-trips will undoubtedly stress the oil a bit more.


He said that he sees few trips of less than 15 miles (albeit I still consider that a 'short trip', but maybe still long enough to cook the bad stuff out of the oil in the torrid parts of Oz), and almost no stop and go traffic.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: A_Harman
I have run Red Line 5w30 in my Camaro for 7400 miles, and was down to a TBN of 2.35, which is still usable, but it's getting close to needing a change. You could probably go 8k on Redline.


Yes, it seems to be mainly short trip caused; fuel dilution, blowby, and moisture absorbtion which kills the TBN on Red Line oils (they only start at ~8.0 to begin with).
As has been stated, they do NOT shear down as far as actual viscosity goes.

Hopefully, he is in the HOT part of Oz which will help cook the **** out of the Red Line, even on relatively short trips, to let it last for at least 8K mile OCIs.