Reason a society doesn't allow 13/14 yo girls to mingle with 18 yo boys

ekpolk · Nov 21, 2005

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You should come to Japan 40 year old men, 25 year old women, There's a bunch of perverts here.

When I was 25, I'd have agreed in a heartbeat. Now, I'm 44, and I'm not sure that I see the problem. . .

And now, after all these years, with my own older daughter about to become a teenager, I finally understand the whole Second Amendment and right to bear arms thing* - it ain't about rising up against an oppressive state, just ask poor Randy Weaver -- they'd crush us in any event -- it's about being properly armed to deal with the teenage boys who are already sniffin' around, and being able to administer appropriate

and worse as necessary!

* This is humor (or at least an attempt at humor), not politics -- there's a waiver for that, right?

rpn453 · Nov 21, 2005

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I think she should do some Brutal martial arts like Taekwondo or Muay Thai.. that would be cool.. nobody would mess with her..... man oh man..

Martial arts are a great way to get in shape and practice some self-defense techniques, but you don't seriously think that would protect her, do you? I've been in and witnessed enough fights (street and professional) to know that it's not going to make a difference against a strong man in a testosterone-fueled rage.

I'm not saying fight training isn't going to help, I'm just saying it's a ridiculous Hollywood idea that taking some martial arts classes are going to overcome size, strength, and aggression in those primal moments when there are no longer any rules.

Willy_G · Nov 22, 2005

Trying to get off on the kidnapping charge is a joke. The least of his worries. I am not an expert, but I thought crossing state lines with a minor w/o parent is kidnapping, regardless if the kid wants to go or not, in most state???

The worst punishment this girl will have is living the rest of her years (free?) and having to face her family after her 'boyfriend' off'd the parents. Turkey dinner might be a little dry this year, next year, year after that, year after that...

GROUCHO MARX · Nov 22, 2005

Apparently the girl ran out of the house to follow this boy and get in his car after the murder.

I don't know what to make of this young woman other than years of therapy will be in her future. There appears to be a sociopathic element to her personality. I shouldn't judge her but should pray for her.

Dominic · Nov 22, 2005

We will never have children - me and my fiancee decided that a while back

. There's always that possibility I could have a girl and go grey early

These poor people. I can't believe something like this would happen, for all the wrong reasons. Definitely protect your young girls, there's far too many perverted people out there.

vairox · Nov 27, 2005

i was 18 and my g/f was 14 when we meet, still together... 6 years later.... way to blow a stereotype apart with a nuke. Granted not everyone that age has the mental tools to make it work.... in general it isn't a good idea.

groucho - kinda like elizabeth smart.... kidnapped and left by herself for hours just 2 miles from her house, but decided to stay...

ekpolk · Nov 28, 2005

Vairox:

Be careful. Some jurisdictions have very long statutes of limitation covering situations like this. Personally, I doubt that any SA or DA would have the drive or stomach to go after a situation like yours, but you never know. Discretion is the better part of valor. . .

BTW, a neat little trivia fact: Florida still stubbornly maintains on its "books" the offense of "Capital Sexual Battery". Thus, if the "perp" is 18 or over and his partner is 12 or under, the sex is, at least in theory, punishable by death. This overlooks the fact that for decades, the only truly "death eligible" offense is First Degree Murder. But hey, that isn't stopping the Florida Legislature. . .

beanoil · Nov 28, 2005

quote from Panda..
"Take my opinion with a grain of salt, because I am only 27, not yet married, and have no kids.

I think every father is over protecting his daughter due to the risk and danger involved. On the other hand, if you have good influence on your daugher, provide a healthy and safe family, and try to get her good influence (church, girl scout, good school, support her in afterschool activity like sport, study club, etc) then she should know how to take care of herself, by either postpone dating or at least find a nice boy to date (around the same age, good student, good moral, good behavior, etc).

If you surround your kids with good influence, you wouldn't need to tell them what to do and they will do the right things."
I like Groucho, will keep repeating this..., but with the full knowledge it won't work that way. Your vision is like a brainstorming session at work. All the "pie in the sky" ideas come out first, and are eventually distilled to the reality that you wind up working with what you have, with little chance of change. Kids are not robots, able to be programmed to "do the right things". You can show good examples to them while raising them, love them until they hate you, and protect them until they leave the house for, let's say, the first grade and there will always be someone who holds a slightly different view (and accepts less than you do as success) than you that will influence them. You do your best as a parent, and you should accept the responsibilty of turning out a good product to the world at the age of 21. But not everyone is on your side, from the educational system that is miserably failing our children, to the lack of attention to detail in the church, to the dope head down the block that wants your child hooked so that he can pimp his ride with another subwoofer. Panda, I appreciate your faith in humanity, but have to say that you will change your mind when you become "aware" after having a child- especially a daughter. It would do well if everyone would remember that their wives or girlfriends are all someone's daughter, and ask if you would want your daughter treated in the manner you treat your significant other.