Seems its all I can get here now. My thoughts are that it really smokes and power is down.
R99 renewable diesel
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Here in Sweden we have Neste MY HVO100 that i think is simular with Neste MY R99 and i drive HVO100 all the time in the Ford Ranger Ecoboost 2.0 i use in my work. I cant see any difference in power or milage compared with the Diesel fuel we have here but its ultra low sulphur and mixed with renewable fuel so i guess you have the real Diesel fuel in US and there it can differ a lot compared with the Neste MY.
I’ve posted on this recently. Ever since April ‘24 I can’t find real diesel in my area.
With R100 I get 5-7% loss in fuel economy and a noticeable loss in torque. Some claim better top end power however in a diesel you don’t drive at 4000 RPM so I can’t say that’s true.
I’ve been able to find real diesel in rural areas. But in my urban location it’s all RD or RD/B20 blends. Even fuel stations advertising Diesel #2 are selling RD. It is actually bad for older diesels that have rubber seals and causes leaks. RD took out the injection pump seals on my dad’s 2003 TDI. The mechanic wanted to replace the pump but I told him to do a vacuum test and it failed. He replaced the seals with Viton and it runs again.
You best bet is to find a D2/RD blend. I’ve had good luck buying from stations that start with a “V”, being vague for OpsSec reasons.
RD is clear and does not foam, smells like wax. Diesel #2 is yellow/green, smells like petroleum and foams. Fill up a glass container at the pump to see what you’re getting.
With R100 I get 5-7% loss in fuel economy and a noticeable loss in torque. Some claim better top end power however in a diesel you don’t drive at 4000 RPM so I can’t say that’s true.
I’ve been able to find real diesel in rural areas. But in my urban location it’s all RD or RD/B20 blends. Even fuel stations advertising Diesel #2 are selling RD. It is actually bad for older diesels that have rubber seals and causes leaks. RD took out the injection pump seals on my dad’s 2003 TDI. The mechanic wanted to replace the pump but I told him to do a vacuum test and it failed. He replaced the seals with Viton and it runs again.
You best bet is to find a D2/RD blend. I’ve had good luck buying from stations that start with a “V”, being vague for OpsSec reasons.
RD is clear and does not foam, smells like wax. Diesel #2 is yellow/green, smells like petroleum and foams. Fill up a glass container at the pump to see what you’re getting.
Power is definatly down. Especially since I only had 158 hp to start with. Snokes like a coal train.
Does it smell like french fries? I haven't noticed R99 for sale here in Washington.
RD has high cetane, like 60-70+ and does not burn optimally in older diesels without electronically controlled timing.
If you can adjust the timing, power, smoke and fuel economy may improve.
If you can adjust the timing, power, smoke and fuel economy may improve.
No, the raw fuel smells like wax. When it burns it has a more neutral smell than real diesel.
I have it as advanced as it will go
What does the engine sounds like? These things get really clattery when the timing is too far advanced. You might actually need to retard the timing.
The important thing is not to get biodiesel mixed up with renewable diesel. Biodiesel is the one that might smell like French fries and might contain used grease and vegetable oil. Renewable diesel usual contains soy oil or Canola oil and is run through a refining process. Like it or not the folks in power have deemed that renewable diesel is the way forward for diesel engines in the USA and Canada, and especially in California.
Renewable diesel is also made from waste fats, just as biodiesel is. I’ve personally seen it polymerize into a hard, smelly plastic-like coating. It’s not everything the advertising claims it to be.
I’ll bet the stuff coming out of Exxon’s renewable diesel plants does not meet those observations.
Here is something on renewable diesel.
The stations in Goleta that are owned by the same guy all carry R-99. I have used it a couple times and the truck seems to run ok. I usually try to fill up at the Shell in Buellton because it is still #2 and usually cheaper when I am up there for Friday BBQs.
We have had a few 6.7s towed in with the CP4s doing CP4 things that were running R-99. But we couldn't for sure say it was the R-99 or just a CP4 being a CP4.
We have had a few 6.7s towed in with the CP4s doing CP4 things that were running R-99. But we couldn't for sure say it was the R-99 or just a CP4 being a CP4.
No idea where it was made. It was sold under the propel brand name. Some RD is branded fuel like Chevron, 76 and also sold at generic mom and pop stations.
I prefer the Exxon/Mobil synergy diesel efficient premium fuel, however it’s nearly impossible to find real petroleum diesel in urban stations here. The last time I went to a Mobil station they bait and switched me with Renewable. I haven’t gone back.
BTW I started using renewable diesel in 2017, it has been readily available in the Central Valley since California began subsidizing it. Literally burned thousands of gallons of it, prefer real diesel for multiple reasons.
Woke diesel fuel. What a time to be alive.
