Question- 16 Mazda CX-5 - soy based wire insulation?

[researcher]

I know a lot of automakers have gone with soy-based insulation for their wiring..
Does anyone know that Mazda used this (soy-based wiring) for the 2016 CX-5?


MODS: Feel free to move this if I'm in the wrong forum..

 

[Fordiesel69]

I am very interested as well.

 

[researcher]

I found info that talks about Toyota (since 2009), Honda, KIA/Hyundai using it, lots of detailed info for those companies. But not a lot of info before 2019 for Mazda for who has soy-based insulation on the wiring.

With no one posting info.. makes me wonder if Mazda wasn't that big on using it back in 2016. But time will tell.

 

[Pablo]

I think it's not 100% soy

 

[JimPghPA]

A few drops of peppermint under the hood in different places about every 3 or 4 weeks is supposedto keep the mice away so they don't chew on your wires.

 

[researcher]

A few drops of peppermint under the hood in different places about every 3 or 4 weeks is supposedto keep the mice away so they don't chew on your wires.

You definitely were thinking why I posted the question about the soy-based wiring insulation! Thanks for that advice. I was doing some digging and found out more about peppermint and how well it works, will definitely let my friend know what to use. They did find mice in their garage, no food or anything in there, I think the mice were looking for a warm place to be since it's been sub-zero last week here in Michigan.

But they're now setting up traps, leaving the hood up, going to be putting peppermint all over the place.

I think it's not 100% soy

thanks for that vote towards it not being soy. I'm just going to finally guess that it's not soy-based because if it was I probably would've found more info on it!

 

[Elkins45]

I can tell you that a mouse ignored my 2016 Mazda6 to eat the throttle control wire on my 2009 Scion.

 

[riff1006]

We had a Honda Civic that a mouse had for dinner once. We tied a tube sock filled with mott balls to the battery cable and let them hang there. It's kinda stout at first, but never had that problem again. Now I put some under my generator in the garage so they don't bother it.

 

[researcher]

I can tell you that a mouse ignored my 2016 Mazda6 to eat the throttle control wire on my 2009 Scion.

That definitely helps. I have a 2006 Scion and mice did get into the engine bay when it was stored but all they did was munch on the engine cover underside insulation. Left all the wiring alone. All my research was showing Toyota (Scion) changed around 2009 to the soy-based stuff. And yours was munched on, sucks, but that info helps me a lot!

Then that's why I can't find any info on the 2016 Mazdas for soy based wiring, I know I said it before but with your post Im going to say my question has been answered.

 

[Elkins45]

That definitely helps. I have a 2006 Scion and mice did get into the engine bay when it was stored but all they did was munch on the engine cover underside insulation. Left all the wiring alone. All my research was showing Toyota (Scion) changed around 2009 to the soy-based stuff. And yours was munched on, sucks, but that info helps me a lot!

Then that's why I can't find any info on the 2016 Mazdas for soy based wiring, I know I said it before but with your post Im going to say my question has been answered.

Apparently Mickey found this delicious.

 

[researcher]

Apparently Mickey found this delicious.

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oh yeah, now I remember when you went through that! lol.. mickey liked the taste of that!!

did mickey every come back? or you were using countermeasures since then?

 

[Number_35]

I wish the manufacturers would build in a deterrent of some sort - perhaps a hot pepper derivative.

Hot-pepper-based paste or grease on aerial telecom cables is a good rodent deterrent.

 

[Elkins45]

oh yeah, now I remember when you went through that! lol.. mickey liked the taste of that!!

did mickey every come back? or you were using countermeasures since then?

I’ve been squirting peppermint oil under the hoods of all my vehicles since then, and putting traps in the floor. I’ve caught several in traps inside the cabin and also the trunk.

Honda sells a rodent deterrent tape but it’s expensive.

 

[researcher]

I’ve been squirting peppermint oil under the hoods of all my vehicles since then, and putting traps in the floor. I’ve caught several in traps inside the cabin and also the trunk.

Honda sells a rodent deterrent tape but it’s expensive.

ok so you've caught them, sounds like it was before they could do more chewing damage. I found a peppermint and cinnamon oil mix, my friend is going to try that in their garage. I also heard about shining bright lights at the tires since mice don't like things that are brightly lit.

ya honda does sell that tape, I bought it for my old honda, it's not cheap but I got some of it on my hands and it burned like a hot pepper or pepper spray!

 

[JimPghPA]

There's a vehicle rust prevention company called NHOU that mixes peppermint into their product they spray vehicles with.

Personally, I place a drop or 2 of pepperment in different locations every time I open the hood for checking other stuff. The little McCormic bottle last me about a year and I keep it next to the washer fluid jug.

Our last vehicle was a 2001 Impala that had a few wires damaged by mice. Enough damage to cause the engine light to come on and throw off the air fuel mix enough that the vehicle would not restart when hot.

 

[Exhaustgases]

My dumb question of the day. Where to buy wires that don't have soy based insulation?

 

[JMJNet]

It is probably best to also try to find gap in your garage like at the bottom of the garage door and garage door trimming.
Sometimes, on the side wall like where the HVAC hoses got into the wall.
There are a lot of YT video on how to find and what to do to cover it.

 

[researcher]

There's a vehicle rust prevention company called NHOU that mixes peppermint into their product they spray vehicles with.

Personally, I place a drop or 2 of pepperment in different locations every time I open the hood for checking other stuff. The little McCormic bottle last me about a year and I keep it next to the washer fluid jug.

Our last vehicle was a 2001 Impala that had a few wires damaged by mice. Enough damage to cause the engine light to come on and throw off the air fuel mix enough that the vehicle would not restart when hot.

Thanks Jim.. I've told my friend what worked for you.. appreciate the advice!

 

[JimPghPA]

I just bought a new bottle of the McCormick Peppermint. The previous bottle had a nice flip lid that helped dispense only a drop or two at a time. Unfortunately, I had thrown that empty bottle and cap away. The new bottle just has a screw on and off cap. This makes it harder to dispense just a few drops. If that is the top yours has when you buy it, don't remove the paper seal. Just put a pin-hole through that paper seal so you can dispense only a drop or two by squeezing the bottle. A drop or two in a few areas under the hood far apart from each other is all it takes about every few weeks to repel mice.