Qatar Airways orders 160 wide body Boeing jets with GE engines

Qatar has a huge wide body fleet. The Middle East is the fastest growing international airline hub in the world.

Yes, absolutely believe Qatar Airlines intent is to take delivery of these aircraft. Qatar Airways has been very unhappy with its Airbus A350 purchase, and felt Airbus was arrogant when trying to resolve a problem.

Middle east is working hard on generating significant businesses outside of energy exports. Passenger transport is one method the Qatari government is investing billions in airlines/ airliners.

I have flown Qatar Airlines a380, a350, and 777. It is a very legitimate airline.
Qatar is an extremely wealthy country, and most folks have no idea where all they invest money ...
 
Boeing has been involved in some shady dealings and I know a few that worked there in hiding.

I was told the stories and sort of blew it off back then. Many years later it adds up.

I had a customer I sponsored and customized his equipment and I featured him on my website and forum and I got a call rather quickly to remove his name and with some prodding I was told the story about outsourcing sensitive parts and other issues...
 
We need more choice than an airliner duopoly. I'm still shocked that Mitsubishi had over 150 firm orders for their MSJ which looked great. ANA had 54 on order. I think Mitsubishi was more or less very close to FAA and EASA certification. According to them trains are a more lucrative market? The USA had what eight aircraft manufacturers at one point.
We had more than that at the end of World War II.

Feel free to start one up. Designing a new airplane takes billions. Certifying it takes more. Then you have to find some buyers.

Huge defense cuts in the 1990s, and financial struggles at airlines the decade before, led to a very bleak environment if you made airplanes. There were few buyers.

Consolidation happened as a result of a bleak outlook for airplane manufacturers.
 
We had more than that at the end of World War II.

Feel free to start one up. Designing a new airplane takes billions. Certifying it takes more. Then you have to find some buyers.

Huge defense cuts in the 1990s, and financial struggles at airlines the decade before, led to a very bleak environment if you made airplanes. There were few buyers.

Consolidation happened as a result of a bleak outlook for airplane manufacturers.
Hopefully Boom Supersonic becomes a viable alternative. They just tested their small test aircraft and at Mach 1.3 no sonic boom was detected on the ground.
 
According to a story on Reuters, Boeing is spending $1B to increase 787 production capacity in South Carolina. Target is 10/month by next year. Regarding the order book, any good plane will have a deep order queue. There is no fallacy that when placing an order that it will be delivered soon. Most orders are years out.

The main reasons for past due delivery dates relate to supply chain problems. Where I work, a supplier to Boeing and Airbus (and many others), our past due went from one days worth of production pre Covid, to two month earlier this year. Every time you turn around, there are more problems. Just recently, a supplier we use in Italy issued a force majeure on parts we need for some Gulfstream parts we make. The supplier has been mandated to build different parts in support of Ukraine, thus no capacity for our stuff. Just one example of how hard it is to get parts these days.
 
A deal like this is likely decades long.

This part of the story caught my eye... Boeing's order book included 521 777X orders and 828 787 orders as of April 30, according to the company.

Boeing is pushing hard to increase 787 production. They are still way below where they were before all the problems started to occur, plus COVID delays.
Boeing's Orders and Deliveries page: https://www.boeing.com/commercial#orders-deliveries
 
https://www.geaerospace.com/news/articles/manufacturing/magnitude-manufacturing-genx

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We had more than that at the end of World War II.

Feel free to start one up. Designing a new airplane takes billions. Certifying it takes more. Then you have to find some buyers.

Huge defense cuts in the 1990s, and financial struggles at airlines the decade before, led to a very bleak environment if you made airplanes. There were few buyers.

Consolidation happened as a result of a bleak outlook for airplane manufacturers.
Yep, in 1950 an airline could choose from airliners offered by Boeing, Douglas, Lockheed, Convair and Martin.
Over the course of the decade, there would also be a number on offer from the UK and France, with the French SUD Caravelle seeing service with United along with the Vickers Viscount, which United inherited from Capital in a merger. There would later be limited numbers of BAC 1-11s and Fokkers in service in this country.
Today, it's pretty much Boeing or Airbus with Embraer playing a minor role.
Bombardier did attempt a mainline aircraft, but while they did actually get it type certified and into production, the financial burden was such that the program was essentially gifted to Airbus and it continues in limited production volume as the A220.
 
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Yep, in 1950 an airline could choose from airliners offered by Boeing, Douglas, Lockheed, Convair and Martin.
Over the course of the decade, there would also be a number on offer from the UK and France, with the French SUD Caravelle seeing service with United along with the Vickers Viscount, which United inherited from Capital in a merger. There would later be limited numbers of BAC 1-11s and Fokkers in service in this country.
Today, it's pretty much Boeing or Airbus with Embraer playing a minor role.
Bombardier did attempt a mainline aircraft, but while they did actually get it type certified and into production, the financial burden was such that the program was essentially gifted to Airbus and it continues in limited production volume as the A220.
Boeing has what, 80% of Embraer?
 
Yep, in 1950 an airline could choose from airliners offered by Boeing, Douglas, Lockheed, Convair and Martin.
Over the course of the decade, there would also be a number on offer from the UK and France, with the French SUD Caravelle seeing service with United along with the Vickers Viscount, which United inherited from Capital in a merger. There would later be limited numbers of BAC 1-11s and Fokkers in service in this country.
Today, it's pretty much Boeing or Airbus with Embraer playing a minor role.
Bombardier did attempt a mainline aircraft, but while they did actually get it type certified and into production, the financial burden was such that the program was essentially gifted to Airbus and it continues in limited production volume as the A220.

A220 production rate is 8/month, with plans to increase to 14 by 2026.
 
Comac C919 is ramping up, targeting 6/month next year, and continuing to ramp. C929 project (787, A350 type plane) is heating up as well. Originally, Russia was a partner with China, but they were forced to exit.
 
A220 production rate is 8/month, with plans to increase to 14 by 2026.
They delivered 75 of them in all of last year versus 637 A320/321 aircraft with orders for another 7214 of them.
Even Boeing, with all of its problems, delivered 260 737 Max aircraft in 2024 and has remaining orders for 4763 of them.
The current orders remaining for the A220 amount to only 491 aircraft, so to get to 14 a month in another year, they'll need to achieve an order rate the program has never come close to.
Sounds pretty limited.
 
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Qatar seeks to have a global hub out of its home country. Instead of flying trans-Pacific to get to Australia from the East Coast USA, you can fly east to Qatar, spend a night in a hotel, and take a connecting flight to Australia. I think that route puts less stress on the human body than a non stop from the west coast to Australia.
 
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