I can get Pronto Air filters insanely cheap. About 3$, I am considering changing it every oil change at that price. My diesel flows tons of air and gets dirty pretty fast anyway. What do you think of this plan? Or should I get an oem type filter and go with longer change intervals?
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For $3 a pop I would.
I know some say air filters get more efficient as they get older.
But if you went to the extreme replacing the filter with solid cardboard would make it stop everything.
I feel that a dirty air filter.is just that. Dirty.
I have seen many turbo.diesel.cars in London smoking heavily. Whenever i have noticed a bit of.extra smoke.my first port of call is the simple air filter change.
Cheap insurance for engine life IMOH.
I know some say air filters get more efficient as they get older.
But if you went to the extreme replacing the filter with solid cardboard would make it stop everything.
I feel that a dirty air filter.is just that. Dirty.
I have seen many turbo.diesel.cars in London smoking heavily. Whenever i have noticed a bit of.extra smoke.my first port of call is the simple air filter change.
Cheap insurance for engine life IMOH.
OEM with longer interval. The more you change, the more dirt you let into your engine.
Originally Posted By: Virtuoso
OEM with longer interval. The more you change, the more dirt you let into your engine.
+1 opening the system may introduce damaging abrasives - the less its broken open, the better. But if you are in road construction - i can see a need for more often though the filter gauge should telltale.
OEM with longer interval. The more you change, the more dirt you let into your engine.
+1 opening the system may introduce damaging abrasives - the less its broken open, the better. But if you are in road construction - i can see a need for more often though the filter gauge should telltale.
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Originally Posted By: Virtuoso
OEM with longer interval. The more you change, the more dirt you let into your engine.
+1 opening the system may introduce damaging abrasives - the less its broken open, the better. But if you are in road construction - i can see a need for more often though the filter gauge should telltale.
+2 cheap filters often have fitment issues and due to cheap materials, i.e. seals that don't seal and media that tears, etc., they have high failure rates. You don't even know filter efficiency and whether it even meets soem semblance of OE requirements.
E-mail "Pronto" for efficiency information and see what happens. Be surprised if you could even find a place to ask. "Pronto" is likely a rebadged no-name made in China by a company that has no "skin in the game" with regards to establishing and maintaining a reputation in the market. Essentially an unaccountable manufacturer whose real name is never presented. Kind of like the no-name oils PQIA turns up and tests. Better that you shop for the best deal in a brand name. I would take a lowest priced brand name over a no-name any day.
Originally Posted By: Virtuoso
OEM with longer interval. The more you change, the more dirt you let into your engine.
+1 opening the system may introduce damaging abrasives - the less its broken open, the better. But if you are in road construction - i can see a need for more often though the filter gauge should telltale.
+2 cheap filters often have fitment issues and due to cheap materials, i.e. seals that don't seal and media that tears, etc., they have high failure rates. You don't even know filter efficiency and whether it even meets soem semblance of OE requirements.
E-mail "Pronto" for efficiency information and see what happens. Be surprised if you could even find a place to ask. "Pronto" is likely a rebadged no-name made in China by a company that has no "skin in the game" with regards to establishing and maintaining a reputation in the market. Essentially an unaccountable manufacturer whose real name is never presented. Kind of like the no-name oils PQIA turns up and tests. Better that you shop for the best deal in a brand name. I would take a lowest priced brand name over a no-name any day.
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Thanks all for the perspectives. I ordered some and I will see how they compare to the low end name brand stuff. I could even link to pictures if it is possible.
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Thanks all for the perspectives. I ordered some and I will see how they compare to the low end name brand stuff. I could even link to pictures if it is possible.
Well, that would be great. We could see what's what. We need to keep informed about what's out there. Every once in a while, we find a surprise product that turns out to be good. In this case I will continue to breathe, however. Keep us posted.
Thanks all for the perspectives. I ordered some and I will see how they compare to the low end name brand stuff. I could even link to pictures if it is possible.
Well, that would be great. We could see what's what. We need to keep informed about what's out there. Every once in a while, we find a surprise product that turns out to be good. In this case I will continue to breathe, however. Keep us posted.
I ordered a Pentius AF from rockauto last night for $3.xx
Within pennies of Pronto and may turn out to be a better filter: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1034606
Within pennies of Pronto and may turn out to be a better filter: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1034606
Here is what they look like. Pretty ok, imo and about what I would expect from a fram, etc.
http://s1077.beta.photobucket.com/user/wyrosjr/library/#
http://s1077.beta.photobucket.com/user/wyrosjr/library/#
I also found this through a search. It seems pronto operates some service centers and other things.
http://pronto-net.com/
http://pronto-net.com/
Originally Posted By: maintenanceMan
I also found this through a search. It seems pronto operates some service centers and other things.
http://pronto-net.com/
Pronto is like NAPA or CarQuest where they have a deal to sign up repair shops that use alot of parts from a parts store that is a Pronto parts dealer so the repair shop get alittle better deal on parts and they get some advertising through Pronto and such. So they store signs them up for little money then they get it back through the discounts but they buy more Pronto distributed parts through the local dealer and get group advertising etc. This practice is common with most parts buying groups around the country these days.
I also found this through a search. It seems pronto operates some service centers and other things.
http://pronto-net.com/
Pronto is like NAPA or CarQuest where they have a deal to sign up repair shops that use alot of parts from a parts store that is a Pronto parts dealer so the repair shop get alittle better deal on parts and they get some advertising through Pronto and such. So they store signs them up for little money then they get it back through the discounts but they buy more Pronto distributed parts through the local dealer and get group advertising etc. This practice is common with most parts buying groups around the country these days.
They are made in Korea which is probably a step up from China at least. I found no separation of the glue which could cause air leaks. There is a metal back plate which I suppose is standard on many air filters, it's really important for this diesel engine though because of the force with which it pulls air in.
If you know anyone who can do the testing, I might even consider sending them a few.
If you know anyone who can do the testing, I might even consider sending them a few.
They are decent air filters, I bought some from Rock Auto for our family Honda fleet.
Originally Posted By: maintenanceMan
They are made in Korea which is probably a step up from China at least. I found no separation of the glue which could cause air leaks. There is a metal back plate which I suppose is standard on many air filters, it's really important for this diesel engine though because of the force with which it pulls air in.
If you know anyone who can do the testing, I might even consider sending them a few.
Indeed, Korea is better than china. Southwest Research Institute could test them but it would cost you multiple thousands of dollars to get the tests run according to ISO4548-12. Cheaper to find a tech source at the company who will give you the test results.
The point I am belaboring is that we are getting pronouncements of "decent" and "good" without any solid info at all. The only thing we know for sure is "cheap." Maybe that's enough for some.
They are made in Korea which is probably a step up from China at least. I found no separation of the glue which could cause air leaks. There is a metal back plate which I suppose is standard on many air filters, it's really important for this diesel engine though because of the force with which it pulls air in.
If you know anyone who can do the testing, I might even consider sending them a few.
Indeed, Korea is better than china. Southwest Research Institute could test them but it would cost you multiple thousands of dollars to get the tests run according to ISO4548-12. Cheaper to find a tech source at the company who will give you the test results.
The point I am belaboring is that we are getting pronouncements of "decent" and "good" without any solid info at all. The only thing we know for sure is "cheap." Maybe that's enough for some.
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For me, decent is good enough.
Its not like I'm driving 80 MPH on the highway with Pronto brand tires.
Its not like I'm driving 80 MPH on the highway with Pronto brand tires.
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