Professional cooling system maintenance

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I was kind of wondering whether it is a good thing to pour straight concentrate into the radiator/reservoir or mix it before hand.


I realize it can have a reaction, but at the dealer he kind of said to just pour it straight into the tank. Is either way optimal?
 
I normally pre-mix mine, then put it in. It's not that serious. Just remember how much of each your putting in, so you come out with the percents you want. It will mix in in the reservoir (if you have a tank), or in the system.
 
I like concentrate.

When I flushed the coolant in my S2000 with distilled water, I could not drain all that water so I poured in concentrate PGL to half capacity then added water to full.
 
Make sure you fill it through the Water pump upper hose first, than the overflow. The helps prevent this particular system from getting air bound.
 
The only thing I would not do is to first add distilled water and then add concentrate. Always the chance you will not get the proper amount of concentrate in if you calculated wrong. If your off a little, better to have too much concentrate than too much water.
 
I have done it both ways, didnt notice anything different with either. I think after the first drive, it will be mixed plenty
 
I prefer to premix some, but with the taxis, often, we'd eyeball a certain amount of concentrate in the reservoir, then eyeball a similar (but slightly lesser) amount of water on top of it. That way, the concentration would still be fine. Of course, it's often more convenient to premix some and set it aside.
 
If you are flushing the system with water you can add concentrate and then water to get closer to the 50/50 mix. If you fill it with 50/50 it wont be exactly 50/50 but it wont be a huge difference in terms of the concentration.

Now a days I will flush with distilled water and fill it with pre-mix and the next season I to a drain and fill with premix. Never had an issue.
 
I flushed the system wuite well. Although it seems a drain is very helpful, it took a lot of water to come clean.

I put the garden hose in all the disassembled hoses and inlets, and with the wp removed stuck the garden nozzle into each of the four wp holes until I quit getting suds. Suds, I am meaning is white water. I typically held the fireman type nozzle into each open orifice ofmthe cooling system until the water ran clear. I did not attempt to even locate the drain on the block nor the radiator drain, as I think were mentioned in the Haynes manual, but usually just pull the lower rad hose to flush. It feels like I spent forty minutes with an estimated flow of a gallon a minute to get the cooling system clean. Now it is just sitting, iron block alum heads, awaiting a pump. Hopefully I wont get much, or any, rust in the system while it sits.



As for the Cobalt I serviced a month or two ago. I pulled the radiator hose, let it drain, then filled with tap water after reinstalling the hose loosely, then ran to the assumption of the thermostat opening,. I repeated this until the water exiting the system looked clear...aka no pink/orange Dex. Btw, just a few hours ago, after it failed to start for the third or so time and requiring a jump start, I left her running for about 10 minutes unattended and upon returning the temp gauge read abnormally low (like 70F when I estimate it being 200F+. And then I parked it again and left it running (with no AC) and returned and the coolant tank looked completely full. Fwiw, most if not all times I have looked at it in the past few months it has always been spot on at the middle/crease level. A few minutes later after killing the key, it returned to the normal level. So I suspect all the idling I did raised the temp really high and it freaked out the digital temp readout and the battery dying maybe killed the electric fan. Guess she got hot!
 
Bgallagher, the purpose of starting this thread was in response to another member's observation of when he mixed water with coolant concentrate. He noticed soon after mixing it got hot, then subsided to room temp. To me, that means a chemical reaction was taking place and you maybe do not want that to happen in the engine and cooling system, even if it is only splitting hairs.

So I asked Bob should I listen to the parts man who said to just pour in the gallon of concentrate then finish off with water OR premix it so the initial reaction wont somehow harm the internals. Although this reaction could benefit the system somehow by taking place within the system.



It may not matter really either way, or we may never notice it. But isnt this kind of what BITOG is about? Splitting hairs to get the optimal way, especially when it is basically free. Like getting better service from your motor using bargain basement oil and having it run healthier, get better mileage and last many more miles versus buying the highest dollar oil and getting subpar service. Does that analogy work for you?
 
Originally Posted By: mjoekingz28
Bgallagher, the purpose of starting this thread was in response to another member's observation of when he mixed water with coolant concentrate. He noticed soon after mixing it got hot, then subsided to room temp. To me, that means a chemical reaction was taking place and you maybe do not want that to happen in the engine and cooling system, even if it is only splitting hairs.

So I asked Bob should I listen to the parts man who said to just pour in the gallon of concentrate then finish off with water OR premix it so the initial reaction wont somehow harm the internals. Although this reaction could benefit the system somehow by taking place within the system.


Reading the rest of that thread, it was explained that the temperature change is due to the heat of solution when dissolving water into ethylene glycol. It is more of a physical change rather than a chemical one. it's the same effect you get when mixing acid and water.

A Wikipedia link was also given:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enthalpy_change_of_solution

Although there are better explanations than that one.
 
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