I like the indirect type on my Honda....It has a plain old rubber valve stem....
My Civic has that type. I considered it a cheap-out solution, but after reading through this thread, maybe not!
I like the indirect type on my Honda....It has a plain old rubber valve stem....
The system works for me.....Had a tire with a nail in it and the light came on....that tire was at 27 psi...the other tires were at 35 psi..... I also check my air pressure about every 2 weeks...My Civic has that type. I considered it a cheap-out solution, but after reading through this thread, maybe not!
It is cheap solution. It cannot pick up drop in pressure as fast.My Civic has that type. I considered it a cheap-out solution, but after reading through this thread, maybe not!
Oh please.How did we ever make it over 100 years without TPMS?
Oh please.
How did we survive without seat belts? Actually, how did we survive without cars?
TPMS is one of the most under appreciated safety innovations. Low inflated tires will cause tire damage that can lead to fatal accidents. 99% of people won’t check pressure on regular basis and I want to know if tire is losing pressure while driving.
Part of an issue are manufacturers like Toyota. That registration thing is absolutely ridiculous and owning Toyota and having summer and winter sets, I understand frustration with it.
Our 2009 Toyota (built Nov 2008) made it until 2023 when the first sensor died, surely it was 15 years old. Replaced it with a Toyota one in a pinch to get the system going again. Second one died in 2025 a month before replacing tires, so they all got replaced at that time.My daughter's 2018 RAV4 is in need of two front tires. Given the year of the car, I'm thinking I should have the tire shop replace the TPMS sensors as well just to ensure the batteries don't die 3 days after the tires are installed. Would you just let the tire shop install whatever one-size-fits-all sensors they have?
Buy two from Rock Auto where they run anywhere from about $20.00 to $50.00 each and then pay for installation? Go to Toyota and buy them there?
From what I see, tire shops are charging close to $100.00 to install and program each sensor!
@18LatsModelFan what is the typical Autel sensor lifetime?I also use the Autel system and sensors. Has worked really well for me across 5-6 vehicles now, dating back to 2015.
Keeping the correct air pressure in your tires, to me - seems to make the sensor batteries last the longest.
The Autel TS508 actually programmed ur knock off PRI TPMS sensors? It really worked?Our 2009 Toyota (built Nov 2008) made it until 2023 when the first sensor died, surely it was 15 years old. Replaced it with a Toyota one in a pinch to get the system going again. Second one died in 2025 a month before replacing tires, so they all got replaced at that time.
Our 2011 Mazda made it until 2022 with zero sensor failures, when I replaced them all at a tire change.
Our 2014 Ram is on OE sensors and show full battery.
I think you could/should wait until next change.
For our Toyota, the dealer wants $95 per sensor made by PRI. The exact same PRI sensor in a Denso box is $35 from rock auto. I purchased a $40 set of PRI (probably knockoffs) from ebay and programmed them myself using my Autel scanner. Not a dedicated TPMS tool. Just a tablet/scanner device. After a week, they were still registered/talking to the system, so I went to the tire shop with my wheels, sensors, and new tires. They install new valve stems anyway, so no additional charge for programming.
Even if my new sensors are knockoffs they should last a set of tires. I could see through the silicone a Panasonic logo on the CR2032 battery, so there's that assurance.
If you don't have the skill/tool to program them yourself and don't want the risk of knockoffs or your customer supplied sensors not working, buy the OEM denso labeled ones from Rock Auto.
How did we make it in the civilization in the last 200,000 years? By having more children and accept the higher mortality rate with lower life expectancy.How did we ever make it over 100 years without TPMS?
I have a Autel Mx808s, or something like that. It's not a tire tool. It's a diagnostic tool.The Autel TS508 actually programmed ur knock off PRI TPMS sensors? It really worked?
When you think about it, they have to identify which wheel is bad, pull that wheel (jack or lift the car as necessary), break the bead, swap the sensor (usually requires unmounting the tire), and then put the whole situation back together again, and put the new sensor code into your car. They have to have all the specialty tools that the typical homegame diy oil changer doesn't have.I wouldn't replace them proactively. The local American Tires would do the replacement without dismounting the tires and just pry one side off a bit and slide a new one in for $10 labor each if I provide the sensor myself (they program it too).
Pepboy's manager want to scam me into remounting and rebalancing the tires PLUS installation so it cost $50 + my own sensor each.
My 2008 sensors lasted till 2023 or so. OEM of Toyota is Pacific (something like that), I installed Autel MX dual band and it programmed well.
Do not cars/truck now a days "auto program" my 2018 Hyundai auto programs any correctly speced sensor if it is the correct frequency. It holds 2) sets of rims IE summer and then winter rims with 30 second to 1 minute showing of PSI. When brand new or say a third set of rims come into the mix it takes 5 minutes to show the PSI automatically, and dumps one of the farthest used set for the latest set rims. Unless discount tireMy daughter's 2018 RAV4 is in need of two front tires. Given the year of the car, I'm thinking I should have the tire shop replace the TPMS sensors as well just to ensure the batteries don't die 3 days after the tires are installed. Would you just let the tire shop install whatever one-size-fits-all sensors they have?
Buy two from Rock Auto where they run anywhere from about $20.00 to $50.00 each and then pay for installation? Go to Toyota and buy them there?
From what I see, tire shops are charging close to $100.00 to install and program each sensor!