isn't that the same? 58 to 52 mpg?
Prius Tires (2010 15")
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Wife's 19 prius rolls on OE Dunlop Enasave 01 A/S tires. I question spending $100 on tires when $60 ones will do, but it's not my money. Toyota also makes a stripped down prius they call the "L Eco", might want to research what tires they put on that. My 05 prius is shod with plain-jane Hankook H724s and gets 52 MPG vs 48 with others. In fact my MPG is getting better as these tires age-- could be less tread squirm, or it could be the ethanol in gas has been diverted to hand sanitizer.
RR does go down as the thread wears off, but I'm sure that's not all you're seeing
Well maybe... it would be at then level this car gets but, obviously it depends on the starting number....
Relatively few people mention either the prior tire or the actual MPG number, almost none both...
It does seem the Cross Climate + (which is what is available in this size) is a "European tire, placing increased focus on LRR" versus the newer intended for US Cross Climate 2. The directional tread is a drawback though IMO.
My Sportwagen lifetime mpg average is 38.38 - exceeding the EPA hwy mpg of 35/36 (dropped to 35 in 2017 adjusted rating)
For me - (YMMV of course) the Kinergy PT H737 have provided 37.98 mpg (48k - 68k and still counting), vs the OEM Ecopia EP422+ 38.55 (11-48k)
A drop of 0.57 or 1.5%
If you were to experience a similar drop, starting at 58 mpg, you'd be losing 0.87 mpg. What if my data is off and you lose twice as much - that's a drop of 1.74 mpg. Still pretty small.
I diligently track all tanks in a spreadsheet. I don't think you'll find much better real world data. My spreadsheet notes the tires cost $280 installed. So back out $60 and I paid $200 net, after discounts, rebates, sales tax, etc. At $55ea, you won't get a better tire. You do need to be patient and buy the tires during one of the holiday sales, CC rebate, combined with a manuf. rebate, and Rakuten cashback to triple dip.
mpg is as much about efficiency for me as it is saving $ (high CA gas prices! - average cost for this car is $3.09/gal)
Best of luck in your search.
For me - (YMMV of course) the Kinergy PT H737 have provided 37.98 mpg (48k - 68k and still counting), vs the OEM Ecopia EP422+ 38.55 (11-48k)
A drop of 0.57 or 1.5%
If you were to experience a similar drop, starting at 58 mpg, you'd be losing 0.87 mpg. What if my data is off and you lose twice as much - that's a drop of 1.74 mpg. Still pretty small.
I diligently track all tanks in a spreadsheet. I don't think you'll find much better real world data. My spreadsheet notes the tires cost $280 installed. So back out $60 and I paid $200 net, after discounts, rebates, sales tax, etc. At $55ea, you won't get a better tire. You do need to be patient and buy the tires during one of the holiday sales, CC rebate, combined with a manuf. rebate, and Rakuten cashback to triple dip.
mpg is as much about efficiency for me as it is saving $ (high CA gas prices! - average cost for this car is $3.09/gal)
Best of luck in your search.
The Fuel Max may be on its way out, but it is sill available for purchase on eBay and other sites right now
Even though the Walmart Energy Saver isn't from Walmart itself, the seller, Custom Wheel Outlet, seems to be a reputable seller and has good ratings on eBay, where they also sell. And since CWO seems to be based in MN, where it is cold, the tires will not have aged much in storage. So if you really want the Energy Saver, there is nothing wrong with buying from that listing.
The Duraplus I linked earlier should also be good for fuel economy since it has a smooth tread like the older Excellence line and similar to the Fuel Max as well. And it costs a lot less.
As I've already said, cars other than Prius (or at least hybrid) aren't translatable.
The Fuel Max may be on its way out, but it is sill available for purchase on eBay and other sites right now
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The Duraplus I linked earlier should also be good for fuel economy since it has a smooth tread like the older Excellence line and similar to the Fuel Max as well. And it costs a lot less.
RE the Fuel Max, I think we'd prefer not to be in this situation next time around.
RE Duraplus - will look into that one more.
Tire Rack does not even list the RT43 as a EcoFocus tire. I am not really a CR fan either.
I do wish TR would incorporate some sort of rating of fuel economy in their test. I thought that they did at one time, but might be thinking of something else.
After a bit of a diversion into a 2021 Blizzard (err Wind Chill) Pearl XLE owner is back to considering tires.
The Defender is probably the front runner.
If you look at the test report on tirerack website, they often include MPG for that group of tested tyres.
Just stating what the CALCULATED gas mileage records are for the cars we've had / have RT43 H-rated on . Used the 43s' ( H-rated ) since they were put on the market . Every tire not labeled ECO doesn't mean it's not as productive for fuel savings as those that are. Again from experience . Did use ECOPIA 422 and Continenetal Pro Contact Eco Plus to replace O.E.M and they were not any better the the RT43s' ( H ) . Records go back to '08 . Do like our savings at the pump . The '06 Prius we had gave us incentive and techniques ( pulse + glide , etc. ) to achieve better fuel economy .
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If you still want the Energy Saver, I found them on 1010 Tires, a Canadian site. They are currently offering free shipping to the US, but it is listed as limited stock and more expensive.
Another option is to buy tires straight from Europe. Your Energy Savers are $650 for the set of 4, including shipping (which is actually $200 cheaper than the Canadian site). That same seller also has the Continental EcoContact 6 for $530 for a set of 4, including shipping. The EcoContact 6 has a fuel efficiency rating of A (per the EU Tire label for tires sold in Europe).
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here's a recent test of summer tyres including the ecocontact 6. But the test is in some cuv size
https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2020-ADAC-SUV-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm
https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2020-ADAC-SUV-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm
These were the OE tires on my 16 Prius. I replaced them with Michelin Energy Savers and MPG is virtually identical. The Toyos made a bit more noise at highway speeds but the ride/handling was about the same.
Toyo NanoEnergy
Toyo NanoEnergy
Some people here just don't get it. A non-LRR tire is a really bad choice for a Prius. Keeping the threshold just above electric mode is what it is all about. Small differences make big differences here.
Continental's eco marketing should not be confused with an LRR, unless also specifically marked as such.
RT43 on an Prius? Laughable!
Continental's eco marketing should not be confused with an LRR, unless also specifically marked as such.
RT43 on an Prius? Laughable!
tyrelabel for continental ecocontact 6. Highest fuel economy rating.
in the 2020 ADAC test listed above, lowest fuel consumption of all tyres tested. Also lowest wear.
"LRR" is NOT an official designation. It has no standard or threshold. And it is not used by everyone.
Michelin uses "Green X", Bridgestone uses Ecopia, and some manufacturers don't have a designation at all! (or at least one they use consistently!)
Further, there isn't ANY way to tell for sure that a tire has a low value for rolling resistance or if it is just better than other tires with similar tread wear and traction characteristics. For that we will have to wait for the Feds to finish writing the regulation (long story!)
Update:
There isn't really an update. Owner is looking at FuelMax, and the OE tires from Bridgestone and Yokohama. Maybe also the Defender.
Were it my car, I might actually go to the trouble to order tires from Europe...
There isn't really an update. Owner is looking at FuelMax, and the OE tires from Bridgestone and Yokohama. Maybe also the Defender.
Were it my car, I might actually go to the trouble to order tires from Europe...
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Ecopia II or plus seem to be the best for MPG
Yeah Olde Goodyear Integrity (OEM) close 2nd in the 15” size
Yeah Olde Goodyear Integrity (OEM) close 2nd in the 15” size
Update:
Car got Premier A/S and a bit of an adjustment for the wear on the Energy Savers.
We will see how the mileage does...
Car got Premier A/S and a bit of an adjustment for the wear on the Energy Savers.
We will see how the mileage does...
I am on my 2nd set of Premier A/S on the Prius (and almost ready for the 3rd). Mileage is guaranteed to take a 5-10% hit, but the handling and wet traction will be much improved. The tires start out at 8.5/32" and wear down to 5/32" somewhat quickly, but the last bit takes long to wear down. Traction seems to be good, even towards the end. Expect 40-45K out of the set.
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