Primm, Nevada about ready to shut down all its businesses?

[y_p_w]

I recall years ago driving to/from Vegas where it was the first chance for gambling or cheaper gas. There were three casinos and they had a business just on the California side that sold California Lottery tickets. Apparently the Flying J is slated to close this summer. There’s been talk about a new airport in the area, but that might take a while. If it does open, there’s a chance these casino hotels reopen if they’re not just torn down. As it stands, employees have been told to leave employee housing in the town.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/busin...ts-in-primm-set-to-close-permanently-3797821/​

The Primadonna Company sent letters Tuesday informing all employees at Primm Valley Resorts, Buffalo Bill’s, Whiskey Pete’s, Primm Center and Flying J that the permanent closures of the properties will result in the permanent termination of their employment. The closure will result in the termination of 344 employees, according to an official notice filed to state workforce officials.​

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Employees who live at the Desert Oasis Apartments, a company-provided housing complex in Primm, also received an eviction notice Tuesday notifying them of the termination of their lease agreement and request to vacate housing by July 6.​

 

[JunkdrawerDog]

That land is more valuable for development than what is there now. Think warehouses and freight terminals.

 

[skyactiv]

I don't gamble. A co-worker goes to Vegas a few times a year and says Vegas has changed. Said blackjack changed to a 6 to 5 payout, food is expensive and Branson would be smart to allow a few casino's with the old payouts as it would be a boom for them.

 

[The_Jeff]

That land is more valuable for development than what is there now. Think warehouses and freight terminals.

There's plenty of desert nearby that can be paved, why try to remodel a casino into something it's not?

 

[JunkdrawerDog]

There's plenty of desert nearby that can be paved, why try to remodel a casino into something it's not?

They wouldn't do that. It most likely will be dozed flat and sold. Prime real estate on both sides of I-15.

 

[PandaBear]

That land is more valuable for development than what is there now. Think warehouses and freight terminals.

And housing for people commuting into CA. I am sure someone would like to make money from CA but not dealing with the liability. Or data center.

There's plenty of desert nearby that can be paved, why try to remodel a casino into something it's not?

Probably the utility and roads are already there so no need for all the groundwork. Also incentive for political pressure to build something new on abandoned land instead of virgin land with oppositions.

 

[Elkins45]

I don't gamble. A co-worker goes to Vegas a few times a year and says Vegas has changed. Said blackjack changed to a 6 to 5 payout, food is expensive and Branson would be smart to allow a few casino's with the old payouts as it would be a boom for them.

Corporate greed crippled them and Covid made it much worse. Resort fees, $15 bottled water, most of the buffets are gone, high table minimums, …

It was better under the mob than under the current group of thieves.

 

[SC Maintenance]

I guess part of the decline in gambling or loosing to online gambling?

I haven't been in at least 18 years. Since I switched jobs. I have driven that road. Got stuck for a couple hours on I-15 while waiting for a truck wreck to clear.

I am surprised Flying J is closing, you would think that would be a prime spot for trucks leaving LA/Longbeach ports?

They wouldn't do that. It most likely will be dozed flat and sold. Prime real estate on both sides of I-15.

I guess it depends on who owns it but its nothing but empty?

 

[Dave Hess]

Mob made sure Vegas was clean and no sketchy people roaming the streets and families to have a good vacation so they keep coming back.

 

[GON]

I have driven through that area many times. Very pricey fuel, everything else very pricey. Stopping at Primm was simply a fleecing of those who didn’t know better, or where stuck because if no other fuel options.

Like going inside an airport to buy a bottle of water. A costly transaction for even the most basic of items.

 

[Pew]

Gambling is down year after year too. It looks like tourism and travel is starting to shift away from casino-resorts as each younger generation gambles less and less. As a result, the resorts raise prices and introduce new fees which turns more travelers away.

It also seems like more people want to get away from the crowds now too, not join them.

Overall, another location lost to the shifts of travel interests.

 

[CKN]

The proliferation of Indian Casinos much closer to big populations. This is one of the big reasons. Those who just wanted to gamble and not stay at a resort would flock to "State line" on the weekends. They would have big name entertainment. I saw Leann Rimes there myself. It wasn't expensive. Never was. Had dinner, saw the concert, hit the pool for a couple of hours in the morning and headed home.

 

[CarLuver]

20 years ago used to go to primm each trip to vegas because it had an outlet mall. now there are outlet malls in Vegas all over the place. primm used to be pretty busy because of the lotto . cali folks would drive over the border , and buy tickets .

the last time i was there , maybe 5 years ago, the place was dead. the mall was closed . there was just nothing they could offer that Vegas could not .

Since its just over the border form cali , a business the serves Cali could do ok due to the tax saving compared to operating in Cali.

the truth is the casinos in primm won't be missed but by a few .

 

[edyvw]

I spend a lot of time in Vegas as I have rental properties there and my in-laws live there.
I was in Primm in December when there was that crazy Mega Million or Powerball jack pot. They have a lottery store on the CA side, which is literally going through the parking lot of that store. It was a surreal experience. I think all casinos and hotels except one were abandoned. It was a ghost town. My wife and I were talking about whether it is shut down or what is happening.

 

[BHopkins]

Gambling has changed in the country. For a very long time, Las Vegas, and to a lesser degree Reno, were the destination cities for gambling in the country. But now there are all kinds of gaming places.

It seems that most every Indian reservation in the country now has casinos. With only a couple holdouts, most every state now has some form of legalized gambling, whether it is only lottery tickets, or poker machines.

Add to that online gambling, and all of that takes away from the destination gambling that Nevada has been famous for.

 

[edyvw]

Gambling is down year after year too. It looks like tourism and travel is starting to shift away from casino-resorts as each younger generation gambles less and less. As a result, the resorts raise prices and introduce new fees which turns more travelers away.

It also seems like more people want to get away from the crowds now too, not join them.

Overall, another location lost to the shifts of travel interests.

Vegas was always about cheap fun. That is it.
Not anymore.
I remember we would go to a strip, and park at any hotel for free. Now? $20 for whatever reason. Food on the strip is abysmal, and yet, uber expensive. They wanted to make it fun for a different, more sophisticated clientele. Yeah, that won't work. Why? Because for that money, I can catch a deal for a quick getaway in Paris, London, etc. Vegas ain't Berlin, FAR, FAR from it.
This year is tough. I lowered rent three times already. Tourism is down, and visitors from Canada are down 27%.
When things go down in Vegas, that means generally, the economy is in big trouble.

 

[edyvw]

Gambling has changed in the country. For a very long time, Las Vegas, and to a lesser degree Reno, were the destination cities for gambling in the country. But now there are all kinds of gaming places.

It seems that most every Indian reservation in the country now has casinos. With only a couple holdouts, most every state now has some form of legalized gambling, whether it is only lottery tickets, or poker machines.

Add to that online gambling, and all of that takes away from the destination gambling that Nevada has been famous for.

Vegas was not only about gambling. It was "Sin city." And "sin city" for cheap.
Now it is "sin city" where you can also bring kids, but for big bucks. Yeah, there are other, much better places where other things grow, not just rocks.

 

[Chris142]

I wonder how the speed train from apple valley,ca to Vegas will pan out now? We used to drive to Vegas for cheap entertainment but now everything is price gouge high we stopped going.

 

[4wd]

The proliferation of Indian Casinos much closer to big populations. This is one of the big reasons. Those who just wanted to gamble and not stay at a resort would flock to "State line" on the weekends. They would have big name entertainment. I saw Leann Rimes there myself. It wasn't expensive. Never was. Had dinner, saw the concert, hit the pool for a couple of hours in the morning and headed home.

I live in a Texas town of 12k - a good 4 hours to gamble in Louisiana. Once a week - the local limo service runs a large bus to spend just one night. Rinse. Repeat.
Houston would be 1-1/2 hours closer - must be thousands making that run …

 

[CKN]

20 years ago used to go to primm each trip to vegas because it had an outlet mall. now there are outlet malls in Vegas all over the place. primm used to be pretty busy because of the lotto . cali folks would drive over the border , and buy tickets .

the last time i was there , maybe 5 years ago, the place was dead. the mall was closed . there was just nothing they could offer that Vegas could not .

Since its just over the border form cali , a business the serves Cali could do ok due to the tax saving compared to operating in Cali.

the truth is the casinos in primm won't be missed but by a few .

Its still like three hours plus in to the L.A. basin. Longer than that for semi trucks.