Primacy MXV4 Impressions

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We've got these tires on 2 vehicles now. I was on the fence about purchasing the Primacy MXV4, the General Altimax, the Cooper CS4, and the Goodyear Assurance.

After doing plenty of research online, reading reviews, Tire Rack surveys, and making a thread when it came down to the Primacy or the CS4, I finally popped on the Primacys.

The first vehicle to swap into Primacys was our 2002 Malibu with (at the time) about 110,000 miles. The previous tires were Kumho 732 Touring Plus all-season tires that lasted about 50,000 miles before they were nearing 2/32" to 3/32" and were fairly abysmal overall (loud, difficult to balance).

It's been about a year and 10,000 miles on the Primacy with the Malibu. I took measurements of tread depth this past weekend to see how they're wearing.

When the tires were new, the center measured 10/32" tread depth and the sides were 9/32" deep. At 9,500 miles (when I rotated them for the first time) the measurements came:

Front left: 9/32" 9/32" 9/32" (outer, middle, inner)
Front right: 9/32" 9/32" 9/32"
Rear left: 9/32" 10/32" 9/32"
Rear right: 9/32" 10/32" 9/32"

I rounded down to the next closest 1/32" of an inch (a tire that measured somewhere between 9/32" and 10/32" at any given point would be rounded down to 9/32"

At this wear rate (which I do not presume will continue linearly) the tires should easily last beyond their 60,000 mile treadlife warranty.

The noise levels with the Primacys have been fantastic. We just put them on our 2003 Accord which has had 2 sets of Energy MXV4's up to this point, and the sound difference again was fantastic. The Energy MXV4 is a fairly bad tire. The ones we took off had about 40,000 miles on them and had plenty of tread (between 4/32" and 5/32") but were getting increasingly noisy and traction in snow/ice had been terrible from day one).

Snow and ice traction seem good to me (my personal vehicles have snow tires in winter) and have good directional control and a predictable limit. The rain traction seems excellent as well, probably the best "in the rain" tires I've used on a car. They seem quiet, they balanced well and as I mentioned before, the wear seems very good.

Overall, I can see why people like these tires so much. If there are drawbacks with these tires, I haven't noticed yet.
 
I have the 205/65/15 primacys on the Lexus, they work great for me as well. Low noise and ride great, and worked well this past winter here in Ohio.
 
Originally Posted By: typ901
I agree with your comments concerning the Energy MXV4, the Primacy's are much better tire...

The Primacys on my Caddy may well be the best tires I've ever owned. To the naked eye, they look very similar to the Energys. Obviously, Michelin has made huge strides in tread compound since the Energys.
 
I had MXV4 Primacy 20" tires on my SHO. They still had 4/32 tread when I decided to change them, only because I noticed they would "hydroplane" in the wet. Worried if I had to go up North for any family emergencies, when there was snow on the ground, I would have problems.

After checking out the tire market, I ended up buying Cooper Zeon RS4-A tires. So far, so good.

BTW, after pricing these tires in various places, both local and national tire places, I ended up buying them at ----- Are you ready-------.

My local Lincoln Dealer. They gave me the best OTD price, plus they balance with a Road Force (Hunter GSP 9700) Balancer, which is the only balance machine they have. No need to pay extra for a Road Force Balance. They were $5.00 lower than the next lowest and $250.00 lower than the highest, for four tires, mounted and balanced. This Lincoln Dealer takes better care of my Ford than the local Ford Dealers.

All smooth as silk.
 
I forgot to mention the sizes:

215/60 R15 H-rated for the Malibu - price was $100/tire
205/60 R16 V-rated for the Accord - price was $145/tire

Both also qualified for the standard Michelin $70 rebate, for final price of $82.50/tire for the Malibu and $127.50/tire for the Accord.
 
Fantastic value. I plan to buy them for our MDX later this year or early next year, depending on how long the Cross Terrains last. The Cross Terrains are at 5-6/32" right now, and the noise level has started to increase.
 
Originally Posted By: ctrcbob
they balance with a Road Force (Hunter GSP 9700) Balancer, which is the only balance machine they have. No need to pay extra for a Road Force Balance.



Lol you can still balance a tire on a Road Force balancer without using the Road Force function. We have the Hunter machine you refer to. Regular spin balance unless you ask for Road Force balance and pay the upcharge. Realistically, the most we use it for is to find a bad tire usually.
 
I have these tires on my 02 Accord as well and my experience has been similar to yours. Safe and solid tires. They never surprise you, which is a good thing.
 
Put them on the MIL's 2011 Sonata the day after we took delivery. Sure the car was nice before, but after the new tires, the thing became so much more sure-footed in the dry AND in the wet.

Fantastic tires, Fantastic performance. My only gripe was their price, but, you cant' expect the best for dirt-cheap
 
We have a set of these on our '99 Accord.
A very satisfactory tire overall, and they should easily go 60K+.
They have 48K on them at the moment.
Michelins are generally worth what you pay for them.
 
We have slightly different names in the UK.

The latest Primacy is the 3 and the new Energy tyre is be a +.

The Energy + is now rated much better in the wet which was its main weak point prior to this recent update.

I have always been a fan of the Primacy tyre, we had them on most of our Zafiras, the odd one had Energys and previously they had various GoodYears.

They came as standard with Continental Contacts which were taken off most at the first service. Due in part to the contract the Trust had with GoodYear at the time.

I don't think you can go wrong with a Michelin tyre, though they are not cheap.
 
Originally Posted By: cchase
At this wear rate (which I do not presume will continue linearly) the tires should easily last beyond their 60,000 mile treadlife warranty.

Interesting that you say this, because thus far my experience is just the opposite.

I replaced the OE Bridgestone Duelers on our VUE at 36K because they were pretty much shot and weren't suitable for the Michigan winter that was approaching at the time. I did my research and selected the Primacy MXV4 and have been happy with everything except their treadwear. Based on visual inspection and the way that some of the siping has completely worn out, I don't see them last more than 40K.

With that said, it may not be the tire. It may be the conditions to which the vehicle is submitted, which is primary city driving. It's our proverbial "grocery getter", dropping the kids off at school, picking them up, running errands, etc. Other than the family trips a few times a year, it doesn't see much highway use. The vehicle is in excellent maintenance, with the air pressure being proper, alignment good, rotations every 6000 - 7500, and balancing every other rotation.
 
I do think usage plays a big role in tread longevity. Some vehicles suspension setups also seem to have an impact in tire wear.

A further point might be weight, too. The Malibu in particular is basically a 3,000 lb car with a relatively large contact patch - thus I would imagine the stresses on the tire are fairly low. That said, I was amused that you can lift the entire side of the car from the front jack point - must be that front wheel drive weight distribution at work.
 
The VUE has big tires (i.e. 235/60-17) and is relatively light (i.e. 3500 lbs curb weight) given that it has polymer body panels. So the "stress" on the tires should be less than average from that perspective.

I do think it's the city driving. In general the Primacy MXV4 gets good treadwear ratings. But if for whatever reason the VUE is going to wear out tires every 40K, rather than paying more for premium tires like the Primacy MXV4, next time around I may save some money and go with a Kumho or a set of Goodyears with the $160 rebate.
 
I have a new set of Primacy MXV4 225/60/16 H on an '03 Impala. They ride good and seem to be pretty quiet. The handling performance seems OK too. In this particular sizes they are low rolling resistance Green X. I don't know how they really compare with Energy MXV4 (even lower rolling resistance?) or other Primacy MXV4 sizes that are not Green X (or are all Primacy MXV4 Green X?). But my Primacy MXV4 have acceptable wet traction and snow traction so far, and I'm not sure if that's the case with other low rolling resistance tires like the Energy MXV4.

If I had my druthers I would probably prefer a little sportier non-low rolling resistance and stickier lower tread life tire like the Primacy MXM4, as the Primacy MXV4 have a treadlife of 620 and will probably dry rot before I wear them out. But with tire prices and gas prices what they are the Primacy MXV4 make more sense. And if I really had my druthers I might be driving something besides an Impala as good as condition it is, living some place more tropical and..but I digress lol.
 
Have these tires on my Acura RSX and Sons Honda Civic. Great tires all around. Will be installing another set on my wifes civic this fall. 55,000 on my RSX tires and still look great. Look like they'll run another 20,000.
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Originally Posted By: bruckus
Have these tires on my Acura RSX and Sons Honda Civic. Great tires all around. Will be installing another set on my wifes civic this fall. 55,000 on my RSX tires and still look great. Look like they'll run another 20,000.
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The Michelin Exalto A/S is a bit more sporty.
 
Originally Posted By: ctrcbob
I had MXV4 Primacy 20" tires on my SHO. They still had 4/32 tread when I decided to change them, only because I noticed they would "hydroplane" in the wet. Worried if I had to go up North for any family emergencies, when there was snow on the ground, I would have problems.

After checking out the tire market, I ended up buying Cooper Zeon RS4-A tires. So far, so good.


Same car, same tires - got 52k on the original set and replaced them with the same now with a 60k warranty. Made sense even though they were a little more expensive. The cost per mile was actually cheaper as the other 20" for the SHO had no or a 40k treadwear warranty for a little less in price.

Cheapest place I found the Michelins for was Sears. Had the Ford dealer who does my work meet their price. I'm a happy camper all around and should be good to 110k or so.
 
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