"Premium synthetics"

[jmacmaster]

It could also be that a lot of people don't want to chance a 10,000 mile run on PP because its really a dino oil, not a synthetic, and therefore will break down in less miles than a true synthetic. In my opinion, an oil that's produced by starting with dino oil is dino oil, not a synthetic oil. I don't care how its processed. Calling it synthetic doesn't make it so and is a misuse of the word "synthetic". I think its a marketing ploy to sell more oil.

 

[mshu7]

Who say's it's a dino oil (besides you)?

 

[badtlc]

PP is a group V synthetic where as M1 is a group IV, no? Group V is NOT dino.

 

[mshu7]

That's what I thought.

 

[BrianWC]

Are we going to have to post EOP articles again? You're not under the impression PP is a group III are you? Or is it grp III+ terminology that's got everyone confused?

 

[jmacmaster]

I run Mobil 1 in an 03 Ford Ranger and Mobil 1 EP in an 03 Subaru Forester, because:

--You can run them 10,000 miles and thus don't have to change the oil so often;

--They lubricate better;

--They have been shown to keep the engine clean;

--I live where the winters are real cold and the syn oil does not thicken no matter how cold it gets, providing better starts that are easier on the engine;

--We plan to keep these vehicles for a long time and I want the best type of oil in them to help prolong engine life;

--I'm willing to pay a bit more for the best. I change the oil about once a year in the Forester and about once every 16 months in the Ranger (we're currently running 10,000 OCI's in each), so the extra cost over running a good dino out to, say, 5,000 mile OCI's is negligible.

I'm amazed at people who worry about such things as the price difference between PP and Mobil 1, the cost of Mobil 1 and Mobil 1 EP, the price difference between a good synthetic and a good dino, etc. I'm not going to worry about a lousy $10 or $20 per year per vehicle. That's the cost of about 3-7 gallons of gas, which we burn up every couple days in our two vehicles. That's the cost of a good dinner out. That's the cost of a case of beer. Get the picture? Its not worth worrying about, especially given the quality and advantages of a good synthetic oil. Besides, I can brag to all my friends that we run Mobil synthetic oil

 

[bottgers]

Sorry, I didn't realize M1 was being classified as one of the premiums. I do believe M1 is as good as any oil out there, and probably better than most.

 

[mechtech]

Tom Jones - Good point, and often neglected in the total picture.