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I wish people would quit buying cheap junk like this stuff and bought good stuff made here, it would do wonders to our economy.
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like what? Like Briggs and Stratton? Unless I buy a vanguard, which I'm not sure is even available in this application, even the briggs is made and assembled, "outside the US," per the B&S website.
http://www.briggsandstratton.com/lam/en/...uring-locations
your truck was likely made in mexico.... it's just hard to avoid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Trucks
http://www.briggsandstratton.com/lam/en/...uring-locations
your truck was likely made in mexico.... it's just hard to avoid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Trucks
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Sorry, this frustrates me and kinda touched a nerve. I really do try to source domestic. It's also why I commute in a smaller car now. Nope, the volvo isn't domestic (though it was owned by ford when manufactured), but it's the FUEL. Almost all the fuel we've used in our lifetimes is money sent overseas. I drive a 28mpg car most days to AVOID giving those dry sandy places my funds, sacrificing my "want" to drive my nice truck everywhere I go. So, there's my action statement for trying to send less of my funds overseas, using it here when I can instead.
Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
I wish people would quit buying cheap junk like this stuff and bought good stuff made here, it would do wonders to our economy.
I agree but the problem is a lot of the "US" brands now make engines and parts in other countries and assemble them in the US so they can put that nice meaningless "assembled in USA" sticker. I believe a lot of the Honda small engines are actually manufactured here, and a lot of the larger Briggs engines are as well. I remember looking at a few snowblowers and the Briggs engines up to a certain size were made overseas, but the larger sizes were made in the USA. I do notice that almost every single Briggs OEM part I buy is made overseas though.
I wish people would quit buying cheap junk like this stuff and bought good stuff made here, it would do wonders to our economy.
I agree but the problem is a lot of the "US" brands now make engines and parts in other countries and assemble them in the US so they can put that nice meaningless "assembled in USA" sticker. I believe a lot of the Honda small engines are actually manufactured here, and a lot of the larger Briggs engines are as well. I remember looking at a few snowblowers and the Briggs engines up to a certain size were made overseas, but the larger sizes were made in the USA. I do notice that almost every single Briggs OEM part I buy is made overseas though.
agree - check the wording:
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Are Briggs & Stratton engines manufactured in the United States?
Nearly 90% of our engines are manufactured in the U.S.A. from U.S. and global parts. Supporting the power within each of us is our brand promise. It's why over 3,000 people build over 9 million engines in our U.S. factories each year from U.S. and global parts. And it's the reason why consumers look for the Briggs & Stratton brand when they shop for power equipment.
The consumer engines manufactured outside the United States are:
700 Series™ DOV®
550, 750, 800, 900, 1150, 2100 Series™ Utility
800, 900, 1150, 2100 Snow Series™
Commercial grade engines manufactured outside of the United States include:
Vanguard™ V-Twin Horizontal and Vertical Shaft
Vanguard™ 3 Cylinder
Vanguard™ Single Cylinder Horizontal Shaft (except Model 19)
All Vanguard™ engines are engineered in the USA
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Are Briggs & Stratton engines manufactured in the United States?
Nearly 90% of our engines are manufactured in the U.S.A. from U.S. and global parts. Supporting the power within each of us is our brand promise. It's why over 3,000 people build over 9 million engines in our U.S. factories each year from U.S. and global parts. And it's the reason why consumers look for the Briggs & Stratton brand when they shop for power equipment.
The consumer engines manufactured outside the United States are:
700 Series™ DOV®
550, 750, 800, 900, 1150, 2100 Series™ Utility
800, 900, 1150, 2100 Snow Series™
Commercial grade engines manufactured outside of the United States include:
Vanguard™ V-Twin Horizontal and Vertical Shaft
Vanguard™ 3 Cylinder
Vanguard™ Single Cylinder Horizontal Shaft (except Model 19)
All Vanguard™ engines are engineered in the USA
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Originally Posted By: meep
agree - check the wording:
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Are Briggs & Stratton engines manufactured in the United States?
Nearly 90% of our engines are manufactured in the U.S.A. from U.S. and global parts. Supporting the power within each of us is our brand promise. It's why over 3,000 people build over 9 million engines in our U.S. factories each year from U.S. and global parts. And it's the reason why consumers look for the Briggs & Stratton brand when they shop for power equipment.
The consumer engines manufactured outside the United States are:
700 Series™ DOV®
550, 750, 800, 900, 1150, 2100 Series™ Utility
800, 900, 1150, 2100 Snow Series™
Commercial grade engines manufactured outside of the United States include:
Vanguard™ V-Twin Horizontal and Vertical Shaft
Vanguard™ 3 Cylinder
Vanguard™ Single Cylinder Horizontal Shaft (except Model 19)
All Vanguard™ engines are engineered in the USA
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Yeah that is a lot of engines made outside the USA. Not sure where they get that 90% figure from. Looks like the only snow engines made in the USA are the 1350, 1450, 1550 and 1650.
What a shame. I love how they also put that the Vanguard engines are "engineered" in the USA. So basically they drew up the plans for it in some office in the US then send the design over to the plant in China.
agree - check the wording:
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Are Briggs & Stratton engines manufactured in the United States?
Nearly 90% of our engines are manufactured in the U.S.A. from U.S. and global parts. Supporting the power within each of us is our brand promise. It's why over 3,000 people build over 9 million engines in our U.S. factories each year from U.S. and global parts. And it's the reason why consumers look for the Briggs & Stratton brand when they shop for power equipment.
The consumer engines manufactured outside the United States are:
700 Series™ DOV®
550, 750, 800, 900, 1150, 2100 Series™ Utility
800, 900, 1150, 2100 Snow Series™
Commercial grade engines manufactured outside of the United States include:
Vanguard™ V-Twin Horizontal and Vertical Shaft
Vanguard™ 3 Cylinder
Vanguard™ Single Cylinder Horizontal Shaft (except Model 19)
All Vanguard™ engines are engineered in the USA
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Yeah that is a lot of engines made outside the USA. Not sure where they get that 90% figure from. Looks like the only snow engines made in the USA are the 1350, 1450, 1550 and 1650.
What a shame. I love how they also put that the Vanguard engines are "engineered" in the USA. So basically they drew up the plans for it in some office in the US then send the design over to the plant in China.
Originally Posted By: Lubener
Throw away "Bic lighter" type engine.
Fine as long as it lights in 1 or 2 clicks. I was spending more time messing with the 40 yr old Tecumseh than I was using it.
Throw away "Bic lighter" type engine.
Fine as long as it lights in 1 or 2 clicks. I was spending more time messing with the 40 yr old Tecumseh than I was using it.
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Honda GC (consumer) engines are made in the US. Most of the GX engines are made in Thailand and now China. Honda's top of the line v-twin engines used to be made in Japan but they moved production to China a couple of years ago. From what I've seen the quality is the same.
Kohler makes their v-twin in the US but the smaller cheaper engines are made China.
Kohler makes their v-twin in the US but the smaller cheaper engines are made China.
I just bought a few years old Toro snow thrower and it has a 163cc "Toro" engine manufactured in China (by Loncin). You can't easily find a single-stage snow thrower with a US-made engine anymore (other than Honda). The B&S snow engines are even made in China. Troy-Bilt and Toro (probably the two top sellers due to their presence in big box stores) both use China-made engines.
I had to weigh machine performance and engine country of origin. Toros are universally regarded as THE single-stage thrower to get because of their paddle and chute design. Hondas are also regarded well, but they're more expensive...but...they have a US-made engine. Ultimately, I decided to try a Toro. Sadly, although Toro has part numbers for things like the carburetors and some engine seals, the service manual says that there aren't any serviceable parts inside the engine. Obviously not accurate from a physical perspective, but absolutely accurate from an economic perspective. You can't replace anything in that engine cheaper than just installing a new engine. If I ever do have any engine problems with it, it will likely really sour my perspective on these offshore engines (perhaps unfairly).
Mowers are slowly becoming the same way. Some still have B&S engines made in the USA of domestic and global parts. Others, however, have started to use "Toro" and "Kohler" engines that are made under contact in China (probably both by Loncin as well). Only Hondas are still made exclusively in the United States, at least for the North American market. Their engine plant, I believe, is in Swepsonville, NC.
I had to weigh machine performance and engine country of origin. Toros are universally regarded as THE single-stage thrower to get because of their paddle and chute design. Hondas are also regarded well, but they're more expensive...but...they have a US-made engine. Ultimately, I decided to try a Toro. Sadly, although Toro has part numbers for things like the carburetors and some engine seals, the service manual says that there aren't any serviceable parts inside the engine. Obviously not accurate from a physical perspective, but absolutely accurate from an economic perspective. You can't replace anything in that engine cheaper than just installing a new engine. If I ever do have any engine problems with it, it will likely really sour my perspective on these offshore engines (perhaps unfairly).
Mowers are slowly becoming the same way. Some still have B&S engines made in the USA of domestic and global parts. Others, however, have started to use "Toro" and "Kohler" engines that are made under contact in China (probably both by Loncin as well). Only Hondas are still made exclusively in the United States, at least for the North American market. Their engine plant, I believe, is in Swepsonville, NC.
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