Originally Posted By: Win
Originally Posted By: bigmike
This was before I got smart and added a safe, lag bolted to the wall and concrete floor.
Most safes really aren't very safe. Mine are UL rated as "residential security containers" and will keep honest people and children out. Many don't even have that minimal UL rating. Safes with a true burglary rating ("T" ratings, I think) are very expensive.
My warehouse / car shop was burglarized a couple of weeks ago, and the safe I had there was cracked open with a pry bar. It was empty, so they wasted their time, but they got in it and the safe was destroyed.
I know and understand what you're saying. Because of this, I put mine in a location that it would be difficult to find and difficult to access. There are walls on 3 sides and very little room to maneuver, even a small pry bar.
There are 2 safes, the larger for the long guns on the bottom, the top one is smaller and bolted to the one underneath and to the wall. I keep the long gun ammo in the small safe with the handguns and handgun ammo in the larger safe with the long guns. I figure if someone did break into one, at least the ammo isn't easily accessible. Not to mention, to pick them both up would be several hundred pounds.
I also added several thousand to my home owner's policy for firearm coverage. The cost was minimal and part of a package deal.
I figure if they can overcome my 85 pound bandogge (pitt mastiff), security system, and the safe, then what else can I do? I'd be much, MUCH more angrier if they hurt my dog and I'm not responsible for what would happen to them afterward. The person that broke into my house knew my dog, thus didn't hurt her and she didn't attack them. Lesson learned! Now I only introduce my dog to family members.
Of course, if I'm home, they'll be shot dead and none of those others things will be necessary.