Plaid still has horrible brakes

[edyvw]

So, after all that drama with brakes, I thought Tesla would resolve issues.
Not only that they didn’t resolve issues, but it seems that vehicle has some serious issues with stability during braking.
Here is drag race by CarWow comparin BMW, MB, Lamborghini and Tesla Model X Plaid.


It is no surprise that Tesla is much faster. It pack 40% more hp and 20-30% more torque. But, pay attention to the end of video! That is absolutely insane for car that fast to have such lousy brakes.

So, I stumble on this video of Plaid on Nurburgring. Struggle by driver is indicative that this is all electric power, and literally nothing else. Cheap interior is complementary:

 

[atikovi]

If I'm buying a Plaid, it's for the acceleration, not the stopping and not for using on a track.

 

[dishdude]

If I'm buying a Plaid, it's for the acceleration, not the stopping and not for using on a track.

But if you're going to drive it fast, you need to be able to stop it.

 

[Soft Cars]

Meanwhile, Soccer Mom is way faster than all of those cars. Fast forward to 9 minutes:

 

[atikovi]

You can drive a Corolla over 100 mph and nobody complains of the brakes. I'm sure the Tesla's brakes are perfectly fine for driving at all legal speeds and then some.

 

[Vercingetorix]

 

[RooflessVW]

You can drive a Corolla over 100 mph and nobody complains of the brakes. I'm sure the Tesla's brakes are perfectly fine for driving at all legal speeds and then some.

The brakes on a Corolla are **** for any sort of enthusiastic driving.

I could smoke them driving under the limit driving around Asheville.

 

[oggb]

Where's Ralph Nader when you need him? Tesla Plaid: Unsafe at Any Speed 2
[sarcasm]

 

[John Galt]

Don‘t EV’s utilize regeneractive braking systems? I’d expect they are calibrated for normal stopping needs.

Stoping a car going at 100+ mph using energy recovery also requires a battery that can take up the energy as fast as it is generated and generators that can turn the speed into kW’s. That may be an issue. I’ll bet the software is calibrated/biased to recover all the energy at the expense of less than superior braking performance. Anytime the brake calipers are used that’s lost energy, an anathema to EV worshippers.

 

[edyvw]

You can drive a Corolla over 100 mph and nobody complains of the brakes. I'm sure the Tesla's brakes are perfectly fine for driving at all legal speeds and then some.

I drove mu Sienna 100mph+ (ran out of space on gauge) and its steering wheel is perfectly fine when braking as well as vehicle:

 

[edyvw]

Don‘t EV’s utilize regeneractive braking systems? I’d expect they are calibrated for normal stopping needs.

Stoping a car going at 100+ mph using energy recovery also requires a battery that can take up the energy as fast as it is generated and generators that can turn the speed into kW’s. That may be an issue. I’ll bet the software is calibrated/biased to recover all the energy at the expense of less than superior braking performance. Anytime the brake calipers are used that’s lost energy, an anathema to EV worshippers.

Yeah, that is not an issue.
Also, pay attention how unstable vehicle is.

This is answer to that profit margin per vehicle. If you put cheap interior, no brakes and lousy suspension, charge vehicle 132,000 pounds, yeah, margins are great.

 

[michaelluscher]

They couldn't call Brembo or Wildwood for some advice
Hell, even EBC could've come up with something

Is this a 100% pad compound/hydraulic clamping issue?
Or is it just a suspension issue that it gets unsettled during hard braking?
Who the hell is doing chassis development at Tesla?

 

[dishdude]

They couldn't call Brembo or Wildwood for some advice
Hell, even EBC could've come up with something

Is this a 100% pad compound/hydraulic clamping issue?
Or is it just a suspension issue that it gets unsettled during hard braking?
Who the hell is doing chassis development at Tesla?

Maybe this is what they're doing to the plaid?

 

[edyvw]

They couldn't call Brembo or Wildwood for some advice
Hell, even EBC could've come up with something

Is this a 100% pad compound/hydraulic clamping issue?
Or is it just a suspension issue that it gets unsettled during hard braking?
Who the hell is doing chassis development at Tesla?

It is both.

100mph with cold brakes. There is no enough surface. I don’t want to know what happens when they are hot.

Suspension is another issue. The Nurburgring video shows how bad it is. That struggle on part of driver is insane. He can do one lap like that, after that Golf TSI will be faster as driver won’t be able to keep that focus.

 

[edyvw]

Maybe this is what they're doing to the plaid?

Maybe it will work?

 

[E365]

Tesla actually announced a $20,000, full carbon ceramic brake kit for the Model S Plaid in November 2021. It’s now February 2023 and they still don’t exist yet .

 

[dishdude]

Tesla actually announced a $20,000, full carbon ceramic brake kit for the Plaids in November 2021. It’s now February 2023 and they still don’t exist yet .

What a surprise.

 

[edyvw]

Tesla actually announced a $20,000, full carbon ceramic brake kit for the Plaids in November 2021. It’s now February 2023 and they still don’t exist yet .

Other manufacturers offer carbon ceramic brakes. However, they are only paying off on track. In regular traffic, they perform same. For example, considering how good regular brakes are on BMW, Porsche etc. it is seriously questionable whether CCB is necessary.

 

[Greasymechtech]

More Darwin awards will be given out to some drivers because of those brakes...

 

[oggb]

I'm more concerned about the people in junkers driving like maniacs in the rain on bald Linglongs that are held on with 4 mismatched lug nuts per 5 lug wheel.